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rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/23/04 at 21:21:25 »

its final. s.m. dev has become union minister of state with independent charge. he has got the portfolio of HEAVY INDUSTRIES AND PUBLIC ENTERPRISES. now lets see what magic he can do for the industry & public enterprises starved barak valley. lets hope for the best. only bit of bad news in all this is md. taslimuddin, a big gunda from bihar has become s.m. dev's deputy.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/23/04 at 22:57:18 »

tslimudding I belive is pretty close to laloo prasad...who incidentally is the railwaysminister.
bg on the cards..ehh!

silchari-pua
silchari-pua

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/24/04 at 04:44:46 »

Cachar has one public enterprise in the form of the Hindustan Paper Corporation in Panchgram.Hopefully things get a little better there and generates more employment based on higher production and not "charity" employment which is what most of our ministers do when pressed for some demonstration of their accomplishments.

Another public enterprise in Barak Valley is the now defunct Ratabari Sugar Mill which is a public enterprise but under state governement's control and has been in closed state for most of the time. Can our "local" central minister do something for that ?

taslimuddin
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/24/04 at 12:24:43 »

main agar gunda hu toh santosh sahab toh bara gunda hai !
gunda gunda bhai bhai

[quote author=sidchakra76 link=board=0011&num=1085338286&start=0#0 date=05/23/04 at 21:21:25]
its final. s.m. dev has become union minister of state with independent charge. he has got the portfolio of HEAVY INDUSTRIES AND PUBLIC ENTERPRISES. now lets see what magic he can do for the industry & public enterprises starved barak valley. lets hope for the best. only bit of bad news in all this is md. taslimuddin, a big gunda from bihar has become s.m. dev's deputy.
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bebhoota
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/24/04 at 18:00:06 »

rana babu has refused to take charge of his ministry unless taslimuddin is removed. he says that minister with independent charge do not have any deputies. may be he doesnt want to share the cream of his ministry with taslim bhai. dont know whether this ministry will bring any good to silchar but it is for sure that rana babu's bank account will swell.

minister
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/25/04 at 13:53:28 »

Dev’s portfolio wrongly alloted
First day of office for the Union Ministers of the North Eastern Region was a mix bag even as a grave error in allocation of portfolio left Union Minister of State for Heavy Industries and Public Enterprises Santosh Mohan Dev high and dry. Union Minister Department for Development of the North Eastern Region (DONER), PR Kyndiah and Minister of State for Defence and Parliamentary Affairs, Bijoy Krishna Handique, meanwhile, took over their new responsibility without any major problem. The two ministers were accompanied by a small group of party supporters and close family members.

For Santosh Mohan Dev, it was a case of so near yet so far, as a glitch in the official notification deprived him of the pleasure of joining his new assignment on the first day. According to his office, there was an error in the notification issued from Cabinet Secretariat, which allocated the portfolio of Heavy Industries to two Ministers. The other Minister, RJD’s Taslimuddin, was also given the charge of Heavy Industries and Public Enterprises.

The glitch was not discovered until the two Ministers decided to assume charge and when it was detected the better part of the working day was over, even as fresh efforts were on to find the RJD Minister a new portfolio. The error, however, stalled Sri Dev’s plans. According to original plans he was scheduled to join at around 5.30 p.m.

Meanwhile, it was not smooth for Sri Handique either, as he had to change his South Block office room, as the allocated room was too small to his liking. He was later allotted a new room in the Ministry of Defence in the afternoon. A small group of Congressmen from Jorhat besides his personal staff accompanied him on the first day. Sri Handique, meanwhile, is likely to be given charge of Department of Defence Production and Supplies. The Minister soon after joining this afternoon was briefed by officials and later in the evening he was scheduled to meet his boss Defence Minister, Pranab Mukherjee.

Kyndiah, meanwhile, first went to Ministry of Tribal Affairs in the morning and met officials and attended a briefing. In the afternoon, he headed to DONER to formally take over.

shaan
shaan

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/25/04 at 15:17:04 »

So, Santosh Mohan Dev bumps with a Bihari in the first day of the office . But as far as i rememeber I did read Saontosh Mohan's name against Heavy Industry in Hindustan Times.
Dunno though the inner masala.... :)

Shankar_Chakravarti
Shankar_Chakravart

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/26/04 at 05:26:57 »

Santosh Mohan Dev takes charge
By Our Special Correspondent
NEW DELHI, MAY 25. The mix up over allotment of the Heavy Industries and Public Enterprises portfolio was resolved today with Santosh Mohan Dev taking charge as Minister of State with independent charge while Taslimuddin of the RJD was shifted to the Agriculture Ministry.
Mr. Dev had refused to take charge of his Ministry yesterday as Mr. Taslimuddin had been listed as his junior Minister for the same portfolio. He had pointed out the technical anomaly of having two Ministers of State in the same Ministry and contacted the Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, and the Congress President to inform them about the mistake. He was informed that the mistake would be rectified and an official notification today shifted Mr. Taslimuddin as MOS in the Agriculture Ministry.
Speaking to reporters after taking charge, he said sick public sector units coming under the Ministry would be revitalised but as far as disinvestment was concerned, he would go by the policies of his Government and the Common Minimum Programme.
On selling off government equity in Maruti Udyog, he said his Ministry would keep in mind the interests of the country's largest car manufacturer. Asked about possible privatisation of Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL), he said it would not be possible to say anything at this stage.
http://www.hindu.com/2004/05/26/stories/2004052603361400.htm

hillol
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/26/04 at 12:59:38 »

shesh porjonto tain boichoin montrir chairo. for last 5 years his excuse was bjp is not letting him do anything for silchar. now he cannot bank on that. he has to do some work this time.

mrinb
mrinb

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/26/04 at 14:13:17 »

Thank god.... ::) our new 'PM' is not in favour of divestment, for which Mr. S M Dev could get this ministry, which however, has got very little scope to do any kind of development in Silchar.
The one and only public enterprise, HPC has reached such a condition where honest effort even will take time to restore it back.
God knows......how much "Honest Effort" we are going to see next five years.

hillol
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/27/04 at 13:37:13 »

in that case mrinb, do u not support the disinvestment. something like hpc which has reached a bad state as it is today, is there any harm in disinvesting? all the things done by the NDA were not bad. they dared to look into the future & were punished into history.

mrinb
mrinb

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/28/04 at 07:46:17 »

Not at all.....i also do support privatization of sick PSU'S, especially when we know that public enterprises in India r full of incapable and ineffecient work force.

But, there r some public units, which i feel should be runned by gov.

mrinb
mrinb

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/28/04 at 15:12:15 »

For instance, take the example of VSNL, which was being taken over by TATA......Chairman and MD, Mr. Ratan Tata, in one of his statement has revealed that it is a herculian task to bring any kind of structural changes in such organizations.
The workforce is highly stubborn towards any kind of change which eventually effects the overall effectivity and obviously the turn over.

ayil
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/28/04 at 15:46:35 »

allow me a bit of a rant here ..

what will rana dev do for silchar ? we are a country where political chamchagiri reaches vulgar and eyesore heights of netas posturing at every opportunity for money and power. it is crude and disgusting. you don't have to be a minister to do something for your people. Even a general MP has funds allocated to him for his constituency. Where this fund goes is anybody's guess.

one day, not so in the distant past, i had a the 'fortune' of visiting rana dev's residence in delhi. it was sad to see people touching his and his wife's feet at every opportunity as if they are god and goddess incarnate. it is not the people touching their feet that as much apalled me as to see the apathetic expression on their faces as these things went on. i cannot understand how they can do this.

lest someone should think i am a nda chamcha, i saw something similar in case of bimal roy too. at one time, i saw he and his son coming out of the gate at his house meeting people early in the morning - same expression of demi gods on their faces.

can we do without these monkeys ? our sad nation is getting sadder every day. the other countries in the world are way ahead of us. if we make one flyover in a city, we think it is the heights of acheivement. it is really really sad. we give values to "manage" and corruption. "he is very bright because he can manage things". our social acceptance of corruption is a sad commentary on our times.

if a road is built, the netas name is put on a plaque there. even if a drain is repaired in a "golli" i see the words "such and such amount was donated towards repairing the drain from mr or mrs x's fund". no one even bothers to mention that it is the poor tax payer's money.

the political leaders do nothing to make the life of general public better. whether they "cannot do" or "will not do" is nothing to debate about. for political mileage people like our mantri here has used bright people and sort of put them in misguided tracks. 'sort of' because the persons affected might have been all too willing to go down the garden path.

so please .. let us not think what our mantris can do for us. let us rather think of how we can save our rear end from their rather formidable stick.

amen.

silchari-pua
silchari-pua

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/28/04 at 17:33:28 »

very well said. that's the truth and unless we as a nation don't improve our morals and keep on trying to find shortcuts to every damn thing, then we deserve these crooks as our leaders. we think everything is right, as long as it serves our purpose....whether its touching the feet of these crooks or harming someone for them.Everything and anything goes and there are no scruples that can stop us from doing anything. that's what these crooks thrive on. And unless we as a people improve our outlook on thingsm and start to value hard work, honesty and perseverance, we are doomed. That's the basis of a just and fair society in which the leaders have no option but to perform or get the boot. For now, we have too much vested interests and too little concern for anything else.

Amitav
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/29/04 at 05:11:40 »

That is the reason our economy has to be such that Govt. roles are minimum in each and every sector as it is in IT.
And for that we need to accelerate the disinvestment process so as to strip the Ministers control from our economy.
If everything except defence ,education and civil administration goes out of govt control ,then India can achieve the target of being a full developed country
by 2020.

sidney
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/29/04 at 14:29:22 »

I agree that most of the economy should go into the hands of the private enterprises with a responsibility for the welfare of the community. The govt can't shoulder the loads of the massive development projects. However, the govt shouldn't stay idle or sideline, but as a public sectors must compete with the private enterprises. That way, they will be able to attract or retain the brilliant workers with lucrative salary, benefits etc. They will also stimulate the workers to learn how to project new ideas, new technology etc. The very imortant theme we should all remember - not what the country can do for you, but what you can do for the country. The well paid workers should take time off to participate in the well being of the communities such as supporting a small number of poor families with education, health and of course financial assitance. We must also educate the wealthy people to open up their hearts and to establish the funds to aid the people in needs. This is the only way the country can realize the significant development. So, my question is will the people want meager job in order to survive, ot thrust themselves into the educational machinery in order to achieve their goals? The country's success or failure is in your own hands, not govt or private enterprise. Why are we born in this world - to achieve something or just to live and eat or to gossip ? The bottom line is we are all the master of the fate and decide where to go from here.

mrinb
mrinb

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/31/04 at 08:32:26 »

Agreed.....agreed to each n everything what u quoted.But, there r some obvious reasons behind every reaction or move what homo-saepians make.....reasons like, personal benefits, desire fullfilment, favours and so on.

All those people whome u saw bowing down to the feet of S M Dev or Mr. Bimalanshu must have been favoured or benefited by them at some point of time n that's what politics is all about.....favouring a handfull of influential group to get the support of masses.

ayil
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/31/04 at 10:20:54 »

does end really justify the means? why does our society create such an ambience, where we need 'favours' from worthless people to get something which is our fundamental right or something which in all fairness should be ours in the first place?

monsieurs et madames, we do not live in a fair society in india. the people who are our political leaders cannot even stand one single day in an office where competency is demanded. slimy tricks and manipulation of facts serve well in the murky environ, which our society is today. But these 'assets' will not work for a single moment in a transperant and honest society.

democracy in india is a joke. most of the people who understand the issues, do not care to vote. and people who do vote are more concerned about what sari our 'bahuji' is wearing, whether she is putting 'pallu on her head while campaigning' or whether 'atalji' is wearing a 'dhoti' or a 'pyjama'. really, give me a break!

i am very sorry, but i hold nothing but contempt for the clutch of orangutans that are our political leaders. but please, pray, i implore on you - let us have the teeny weeny bit of dignity that is (hopefully) left and not bow, touch feet, and lick the unpalatable ends of these primates.

mrinb
mrinb

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/31/04 at 11:56:22 »

All of us r well aware of what is happening around us,we also recognise the changes required to improve the scrawling social and political system in the country........but...huuuu....where is that tiny effort from our end that can change the prevailing condition.....we think of changing the system, but are hesitant while putting the first tangible step towards that......

sidney
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 05/31/04 at 16:31:00 »

Bowing down to the feet of the political figures is an insult to our national pride. You and the politicians have the same equal footing. So, speak up or confront the politicians with firm and courteous manner, though in heart they are brothers and sisters. In some way we can explain to them that bribing or favoritism is a crime and unless it is stopped, we can start bribing the sons and daughters of the politicains and their followers to learn the wrong way. What does it mean? To create a panic in their minds? They know very well anyone can do the dirty work to sabotage their behavior or ambition.

mrinb
mrinb

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 06/02/04 at 11:33:30 »

That's what....we understand everything....know what should be done to set things right, but unfortunately, never try to implement those stuffs....we talk n talk....even i do the same...

i_am_amnesiac
i_am_amnesiac

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/23/04 at 21:24:03 »

nothing will happen guys and gals. apart frm some old hands trying their hands at cricket at silchar.

as i learnt frm a friend of mine, Mr. S.M. Dev is busy stabilising himself. in plain words that means he is trying to make money (as much as he can) to cover up for his brother's betrayal and to get his youngest daughter married ;D

teesta
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/24/04 at 02:16:24 »

In Rana Devs defence
I will say this
1.stadium
2.university
3.the extension of the airport
4.getting the Biggest Highway Project to use Silchar as a terminus
5. A polytechnic institute.
6.and Communal harmony in this part of assam No terrorism ( leave aside a few Sangh elements headed by a failed pracharak.)

I worked for the Government for 25 years I have never Met Rana da, but I have seen his style of working and one time been in the room when he was working and making decisions.
the chap is actually honest. The Good thing is that he has enough money in his family from his father so that he does not take money for himself. His younger brother the one in Calcutta not is also of the same mettle. He left the family business and set himself up very nicely in calcutta by himself.
Sati mohan dev their father is one of the most famous freedom fighters form sylhet. My father told me that Nehru had been to his basha in the 30s.
The fact is that whatever little he could do given the huge limitations he had to face Honestly I think he has done well . I worked for FCI for a long time and have travelled all over the country. I was amazed to see that silchar is the only town that in spite of being this small has an airport a huge stadium a university a cancer hospital. And mark my words By the END OF THIS TERM HE WILL BRING BROAD GAUGE TO SILCHAR. Think about it at least he is educated and has some idea regarding public administration. Think of the Taslimuddins and the laloos out there. Do you Even MADHAV RAO SCINDIAS constituency does not have a University. Think of how much work it takes to get things like that done.

silchari-pua
silchari-pua

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/24/04 at 04:43:36 »

[quote author=teesta link=board=0011&num=1085338286&start=15#23 date=07/24/04 at 02:16:24]
In Rana Devs defence
I will say this
1.stadium
2.university
3.the extension of the airport
4.getting the Biggest Highway Project to use Silchar as a terminus
5. A polytechnic institute.
6.and Communal harmony in this part of assam No terrorism ( leave aside a few Sangh elements headed by a failed pracharak.)
[/quote]

Shut up !

The university was a legitimate demand by the students unions of the region for a long time before Rana Dev even got into it.And yes, it came to Silchar when he was a central minister but that doesn't mean he can hog all the credit for it.And look at what a mess it is due to the political interference from the same guy.No decent academic administrator can work there because of the innumerable cronies of Rana Dev and all others who have vested interests in it. And look at the Tezpur university which came at the same time.

The highway project was a BJP effort and is in shambles anyway, and I hear its getting shelved by the congress. Rana Dev had nothing to do with it.

The British built the Lumding-Badarpur railway line in 1897 in a period of just six years. They did the survey and the construction in that period and it was one of the engineering marvels of the time with 39 tunnels and MG railway line in a gradient which no one ever thought possible.And what has the Indian Railways done till now with the Lumding-Badarpur BG line in the last 10 years.Didily squat. And why ? Because Rana Dev and all his cronies have lot of stake in keeping it that way so that they can make money with their fleet of buses and trucks running under various transportation banners.

Stadium ? yeah, what good is that anyway ? given the poor infrastructure we have, no big matches are going to be played there under any circumstances.The whole DSA is a scam being run to make money and nothing else. Look at the state of affairs of Silchar sports and you would know what it is.

And look at the condition of the roads. Whatever exists in the name of roads isn't worth calling a road.Those better be called "Ail"...you know what I mean ?

And we keep cribbing about center's apathy towards Barak Valley and all that crap....tell me one place in the NorthEast which had a central minister for most of the time starting in 1984....that's 20 years. That's a lot of time to address all the grievances of a small town like Silchar, if one is honest.

And no terrorism...eh ? I guess we would have been much better off if Silcharites had taken up arms against such people and their cronies.

teesta
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/24/04 at 11:34:12 »

My dear Brother silchar Pua
something tells me that you are a young person, under 35
I am 72
I have the unique view one that spans over 40 years. I worked out my heart and soul to build this country only recently i learnt how to use the internet. i have seen more than you have
threre has been more proggress in silchar in the the past 25 year than ever before. ask your baba and dadu what silchar was, A small little town in the middle of nowhere. we had to take a train fot 3 days t o get to Kolkata.
One Question bhai ?why are you being so disrespectful!
You start your letter with the words SHUT UP!
why so much hatred.
If people like you could channelise your patriotism into something more positive rather than giving galagal then we could all be in a better situation, Concentrate on the positive things my freind we can together make a situation where it does not matter if you are Hindu or muslim all will have enough and then you will not care about who is what. Bhai we need people like you to be sensible and intelligent. No hatred. why are you so mean, Silchar is a small town in assam but it still has so many good thngs about it
stop hating and start acting in a positive way, I only have a few more years to live and it really scares me that young and intellingent people like you are thinking with so much hatred.

agartola
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/24/04 at 11:58:49 »

SANTOSH BABU KI TYPE-ER GUNDA AASLA ,,,ITA 87,88 AGARTOLA JE GUNDAMI KORSOIN ITA TAKI JANA JAIII........

TAIN KUNO DUA TULSI PATA NA...........

AGRATOLA MANUSH JANA SM DEV KI TYPE-ER GUNDA

silchari-pua
silchari-pua

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/24/04 at 22:13:44 »

[quote author=teesta link=board=0011&num=1085338286&start=15#25 date=07/24/04 at 11:34:12]
One Question bhai ?why are you being so disrespectful!
You start your letter with the words SHUT UP!
why so much hatred.
[/quote]

Sorry if I offended you. And yes I am under 35 and I respect your experience of the years and would like to know more of your views as to why things are, the way they are. The "Shut up" was not anything personal and was directed more against the "we have got more then others, so why crib" attitude that permeates all through Silcharites lives.... this sense of contentment among Silcharites is what is killing progress. As long as we can eat the 'pabda macch' from fatak bazar we are fine... it doesn't matter if the electricity goes out 12 times in a day or we have to travel through a pothole which has patches of roads and not the other way round or get drinking water from a pipeline which sometimes gets mixed up with the pipeline from urinals of cinema halls..But hey, we are contented....if we can somehow manage the money to buy "paabda macch" at Rs.500 a kilo we are fine and progress can be shown in the form of a university and an airport and lots of other stuff that lot of towns don't have, and so we should be grateful to our leaders and not ask them for more, even if such basic amenities as drinking water, electricity and roads are broken.

We are contented as long as we can build our house.... doesn't matter if there aren't any roads to get there or electricity or water.We are contented if we can send our children to study in Delhi or Bangalore...we don't want them to live in Silchar but hey, Silchar has made lot of progress and we should not be asking our leaders to provide basic infrastructure which can make it a better place for business and industry to generate jobs or anything like that.Its good the way it is.Most of us can keep on getting the funny money via these leaders by somehow siphoning funds and doing the 'sarkar ka maal, pocket me daal' trick and providing for all our own necessities.So it is never wise to ask them to do anything more, because they are already doing a lot for us by awarding that PHE contract to us or letting us skim the PWD funds for road construction as long as we give them a commission or by getting one of our kin through the APSC approval for a post which was under section 3F or something to that effect.We need them for our own vested interests and so to give "galagal" to them would be suicide.

Well I can continue my rant, but that's not going to help anyone either.So, Adios !!

devdas
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/25/04 at 21:08:20 »

Heck ! University is not S M Dev's credit ! atleast Dont post F******* symapthy on Rana Dev in this message boad
[quote author=teesta link=board=0011&num=1085338286&start=15#23 date=07/24/04 at 02:16:24]
In Rana Devs defence
I will say this
1.stadium
2.university
3.the extension of the airport
4.getting the Biggest Highway Project to use Silchar as a terminus
5. A polytechnic institute.
6.and Communal harmony in this part of assam No terrorism ( leave aside a few Sangh elements headed by a failed pracharak.)

I worked for the Government for 25 years I have never Met Rana da, but I have seen his style of working and one time been in the room when he was working and making decisions.
the chap is actually honest. The Good thing is that he has enough money in his family from his father so that he does not take money for himself. His younger brother the one in Calcutta not is also of the same mettle. He left the family business and set himself up very nicely in calcutta by himself.
Sati mohan dev their father is one of the most famous freedom fighters form sylhet. My father told me that Nehru had been to his basha in the 30s.
The fact is that whatever little he could do given the huge limitations he had to face Honestly I think he has done well . I worked for FCI for a long time and have travelled all over the country. I was amazed to see that silchar is the only town that in spite of being this small has an airport a huge stadium a university a cancer hospital. And mark my words By the END OF THIS TERM HE WILL BRING BROAD GAUGE TO SILCHAR. Think about it at least he is educated and has some idea regarding public administration. Think of the Taslimuddins and the laloos out there. Do you Even MADHAV RAO SCINDIAS constituency does not have a University. Think of how much work it takes to get things like that done.
[/quote]

shocked
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/27/04 at 03:55:00 »

Any one can post anything on this site it is a free country, Why do you have to be so rude!!
I have been reading a lot of posts in this site. I seems to me that there is a clear trend. All those following the sangh ideology are the rudest and the most disrespectful. I am not saying this, see for yourself . The language and tone of those who defend the Fake Hindutva Proponents ( read cow belt hindi speaking brahmanical indivduals) it truly is scary, they use dirty words, suggest repression of their fellow man and are the only elements on this site that are truly not interested in any contructive debate. I urge all of you to stop this hatred !!!!! If you are using the internet you are obviously educated, and please behave in that way.ALSO I WILL DEFEND RANA DEV AS HE IS A GOOD MAN. Allthough as some has said previously he is no DHOA TULSI PATA. This i agree, in idiam politics there is no one who is so. But I have more faith in him than that crazy pracharak!!! and i think the VAST MAJORITY OF THE INDIAN SYLHETI AND BENGALI COMMUNITY AGREE WITH ME AND NOT YOU, YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE HE IS THE SEVEN TIME MP. LET REPEAT THAT " SEVEN TIME MP"

anti-rana
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/27/04 at 05:21:28 »

Anyone with enough muscle and cash power can be a seven or ten time MP in India and specially Silchar. That is not necessarily a barometer for the persons popularity or how good he/she is percieved as among the masses.Wake up and smell the coffee, pal !!

And if you are all for constructive debate then why not answer the question as to why Silchar is so miserable even after having a central minister from that place continuously for the past 20 years.

Anitrana2
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/27/04 at 11:10:13 »

hi,

Mr. Anti Rana "yes" you have told the actuall fact.I don't know why silcharities make him this"GUNDA' a Hero....

How he won all the ellections ,everybody know very well,then also...

Previously in Agartola also he his famous for this kind of activity.Today any "Riksawala" can win the election if he got Money and Muscle Power......so it does not matter how many he won elections.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/27/04 at 11:16:59 »

yeah...'anti- rana'
and to add to your 'wise' comments...
someone can win seven time also if there is a lack of credible opposition...
just look at the opposition from time to time...weigh their credibilities and their abilities to throw their weight around in the centre...and their popularity among the masses...and you will have an answer to your puzzle...an answer that is different from your predilections.

Shankar_Chakravarti
Shankar_Chakravart

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/27/04 at 11:41:56 »

[quote author=silchari-pua link=board=0011&num=1085338286&start=15#27 date=07/24/04 at 22:13:44]

to buy "paabda macch" at Rs.500 a kilo

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[i]Dear Silchari-pua[/i].
Pardon my ignorance, but please tell me, this is flood time cost or all-time cost at Fatak Bazar ?? :o :o

[quote author=silchari-pua link=board=0011&num=1085338286&start=15#27 date=07/24/04 at 22:13:44]

Well I can continue my rant, but that's not going to help anyone either.So, Adios !!
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[b] Very sensible reply. [/b]

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/27/04 at 12:20:39 »

are shuno baa kitaa holio...
koidin age ami Silchar o bazaar o geslaam...
tee ektuu derii hoi gesil...giyaa betar ono dekhlam khali dui taa maach...rou...bhala asill dekhtey...
tee ami jigailaam koto...koilo tinsho...ami koilaam koto kom e dibay...koilo duisho pochasi...tee ami are dam dor korram...tokhon dui dik ton e duijon ailaa...jigaila daam...duno dora dori nai...dui jon e dui taa maach uthaila...ujoon korailaa...loiyaa gelaa giyaa...beta y amaare halaa are patta u diloo naa...tararay maach diyaa gelo giya...ami dam korat giyaa maach taa pailaam u naa...
eii hoilo machbazaar.

anti-rana
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/27/04 at 21:26:25 »

[quote author=Rupam link=board=0011&num=1085338286&start=30#32 date=07/27/04 at 11:16:59]
yeah...'anti- rana'
just look at the opposition from time to time...weigh their credibilities and their abilities to throw their weight around in the centre...
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well our Ranada has surely thrown his weight around in the center, but I always had one question for anyone giving me that crappy argument.... what good has it been for us ?? He sure has thrown his weight around to get stuff for himself and keep his ministry, but what else ? He sure had the clout to do national scams like the Bailadaila mines thingy, just like the other bigwigs of the center, if that's what you mean by "throwing the weight around".

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/28/04 at 12:00:28 »

the point remains dude, that you were making a comparative statement on your earlier posting...try and show a solution...or a pointer to someone who could better smd...you have to select or elect your representatives from a lot of predefined and apparently exhaustive list...
talking of corruption...thats one front that your kp has matched smd...shoulder to shoulder...bailadila for the 100 crores earned in comission on laying out telecom links...

talking about using manpower to win elections...smd did that...trpura and Silchar...
what are you going to say about kp beating huda back in 1996 when in fact huda had garnered more votes? cachar college...1996...pravas sen mazumdar was a no- contender...it had boiled down to kp and huda...and anyone who was there would tell you the kind of benefits having more men on your side gives...ballot boxes after ballot boxes were not- opened and all the votes in each of those unopened boxes were declared to be kp's...just because huda did not have enough agents working for him...kp got elected..
being anti something sans reason is being overzealous...and thats crappier than anything under the sun...

huda was there for a term...kp was there for two terms...make a comparative analysis and you would know who fares where...

the point is there is a difference between an MP and a leader...your constituency has not had one...in years...moinul haque wasnt an MP from Silchar...though he gave Silchar more than anyone else did...
throw more of your craps should you want to.

anti-rana
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/28/04 at 21:30:35 »

and where did you get the idea that I was for either kp or huda ? did i say as much as a word trying to glorify or support them ? i don't give a hoot in the hell for those two buggers either.

you seem to be overzealous in labeling people as kp supporters and huda supporters in an attempt to save the skin of your leader(Rana babu), more then trying to figure out what's wrong with our body polity. options are something that become available only when you realise that what you have is not good enough.Its not a matter of comparison of one set to the other set of morons who act as leaders in our area. Its about making a step at knowing and understanding that your lot is miserable with the current crop no matter what, and then and then alone something desperately drastic can be done to improve the lot.

As long as we are not genuinely appalled morally by the actions of all these guys, we cannot make a change.Otherwise we are just like them and can't expect any better.That's the first step.That's the ethical change needed among ourselves to boot these guys, because at present these guys are just a reflection of us.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/29/04 at 12:37:36 »

there, I agree with you...
the line that you have pursued, is the line I always wanted a discussion on...
and some of my earlier messages here have been in this direction...that its long overdue on us to come outn of this 'exclusive' set of representatives and have a whole new set of options...people who are leaders...and not just rabble- rousers...people who can really really spark some amount of self- confidence in the otherwise desolute masses in the valley...it could be you...it could be someone else...it could be every second guy...who turn the valley on its head despite the huge disadvantages...
all one needs is an elevation of mind...and the capacity to dream...beyond the ordinary...

and I am not trying to save noone's skin here...smd is not my leader...but I vote for him because to me, he is the lesser of the existing evils.

pheluda
debajit

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/29/04 at 13:03:55 »

Everything said and done, we shall remain one of the poorer places with many many looteras around. And if u try to bargain in the fish market, you end up eating veg that day !!

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 07/29/04 at 18:41:20 »

I agree with the second part of the statement of yours, mittir- da...and would prefer eating a good thali of sabzi rather than an item of fish...
however...the first part of your message, though correct, reeks of diffidence...

looters around...poverty around...infrastructural nightmare...everything taken...but we are talking about getting rid of these...difficult indeed...but is it the most difficult job in the world?

you would ask me to suggest a solution...I would say I have none...none concrete...because a solution cannot be viewed in isolation...its interwoven with a whole range of other issues...right from the system of education that creats and possibly makes the mindset unfit for 'disruptive' thinking...to the lack of enterpreneural spirit...which needs to be there very much...in every locality and every gali of the valley...if the apparently unsurmountable difficulties are to be overcome.

We could start off with a simple exercise. So many of us are living outside the valley for quite sometime now...there are people who have worked in diverse areas...the amount of knowledge that each person carries with him when added together is immense...cant we bring those back and try and use some of those...customize those ideas to suit local considerations and build and execute a plan that makes livelihood a little easier for the people of the valley?

I know this is carrying it too far...but then thats the kind of dream that has to drive the valley if it has to be resurgent...a layman like me can only see dreams of such nature...and talk and shout in insignificant message boards...but when several of the experts that have their roots back in the valley and have amassed a whole gamut of experience through various assignments in manufacturing, supply chain planning, distribution and sales, information technology, communications etc... come together and get their heads locked...maybe the reality would really wake up to the dreams...rather than sleep to them...

this sounds outlandish I know...but then its just one life that we all have...we can live it by serving others all our lives...desi or firang companies...and boast of our so- called success at serving our masters...or we can utilize it to generate social and cultural wealth...that has a positive impact on the lives of several others.

I guess this message has digressed from the very topic here...but then talking of elected representatives, they have a role to play in this...in terms of the second most important stakeholder's support...the government's...and hence we require a new breed of leadership in the valley...one that is free from the old way of thinking and the old way of politics...one that can dream, execute and take people along...to achieve those dreams.
regards
Rupam.

hope
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 08/06/04 at 01:04:39 »

My dear Rupam,
I am glad that someone is making sense. I am really apreciate your attitude, it brims of positivity and hope. I am also glad that you can form a cleart and coherent agruement, without foaming at the mouth with hate like some of the sangh activists who frequent these pages. If you read some of the postings that are on these pages I am sure you too cringe with fear that people, good people, educated and well versed in the ways of the world, people who walk among us harbour such fervent ill will towards some sections ofthe society. It truly frightens me. To me any form of extrimism is dangersous. Be it AL QAEEDA oR VHP.
The fact is that Silchar is part of a greater region that is the Northeast. We are in the northeast cursed by geography. The fact that we are cut off by the shortest direct land link to the rest of the country due the existence of Bangadesh is a serious handicap. this has primarilt been the reason for the low level of infrastructural development in the northeast. IF you have any Idea how the government of india works then you will understand how impossible it is to get things done.
In Delhi among his peers SMD is one of the most respected and listened to leaders. NO MP is beyond blame in this country. the nature and set up of our polity is such that to be elected plain and simple without any form of machinations is virtually impossible. IF you dont resort to "manpower" tactics then the other side will and you will lose the election. The fact is that Democracy is a work in proggress. It is forever bettering itself.
I have been studying recently the small towns of india. Towns the same size as silchar. I will tell you this that there more in silchar than most of these towns. I promise you that. It is mind boggling that a town as small and on the sidelines as Silchar has a University. I have also studied the Background of KP he is khati RSS man. We cannot let that element in our beautiful valley. We have to keep these guys out AT ALL COSTS. I will glady throw my lot behind SMD simply because I know these two facts
that he is from one of the most respectable and famous families in all of sylhetdom. The older ones among us knew Sati Dev as a truly great man. rumour has it that Nehru visted the Tarapore Basha a number of times.
secondly the man is educated and understand economics. A prime example is the Decontrolling of steel. In 95 againsts the left and all the elements in his party he dereguated the stell industry. The effects that this had on the Indian economy has been extolled by manmohan singh and even by a Harvard Business School study. Because of that action the production of indian steel has almost doubled in the last decade!!!!!!
People like LAXMI MITTAL who were previously tied into the country and their holdings were given more freedom to deal and build. The rest is history. We all know about LAXMI MITTAL TODAY. He is the world second largest steel maker and one of the most famous indians in the world.
You are also right that we need a new breed of leaders. I think there have to be young and motivated people among us that are willing to take chances and make changes. I have heard two rumours tell mw what you guys think I have that Rana devs Daughter who is a lawyer from Kings college london or his youger brother from calcutta who is a very succesful businessman from what i hear will run next time around.
Rana dev will be 75
and Kabindra Babu 78
so they are out
what do you guys think

anti-rana
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 08/06/04 at 04:13:32 »

Oh nice ! Is there a fetish thing between us Indians and dynasties ?

Come on, realize one thig first....that we have been shortchanged by ALL our leaders for the past 25 years and to continue with any of that lineage is probably going to bring in even more misery. We need an overhaul and that's what we should work for, instead of looking up to the scions of thugs.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 08/06/04 at 12:50:53 »

hope floats...thanks for those nice words...and yes you seem to know your stuff well...deregulation of the steel industry was indeed laudable...an looking at it, going forward new strains of liberalization are likely.

and as far as great leaders are concerned, I could not care less if they are scions or rags- to- leaders kinds...as long as they can prove their mettle...its common men who make leaders...and everyone is allowed to make one's own...predilections notwithstanding.

but then we are talking about a breed of new leaders...a number of them...of ones who are able to spark the imagination of the people in the valley...and show a way...and I dont care a fig...if they were someone's descendents...as long as they can paint a picture of their own.

If they cant, they are not my leaders. If they can , they are.

hope
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 08/07/04 at 02:33:45 »

Well said Rupam,
Neither do I care
As long as they are educated and have vision. very true!
I am just waiting for the mad sanghis to make a comment, I wonder where they have disappeared. Usually any sensible discussion has a few of these psychopaths putting in their two cents!!! kothae gele baa, Kabindra babur dhhotit piche lookaiya aaso ni.

anti-rana
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Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 08/07/04 at 04:44:39 »

Educated ? Yeah, everyone of our leaders are educated. And Vision ? Well what do we know of these scions of Rana Dev to say that they have a vision ? So let's talk about Rana Dev for now.

And why are you more interested in finding out what Sanghis have to say ? Who cares what they have to say....If you think that the Sanghis talk trash anyway, why are you interested in hearing about it. Talk on the point at discussion here, which is about the impact of Rana Dev's portfolio on development of Barak Valley, and not make it a political flamefest.

Answer me these -

Why has the Lumding-Badarpur gauge conversion work been in a limbo for all these years ?

Why has there been no progress whatsoever on the Tipaimukh Dam project which could have alleviated most of the flood related problems of the region ?

Why are the Silchar PWD roads(if you can call them roads) in such horrible shape ?

Why is the electricity supply in Barak Valley so horrible that uninterrupted power supply cannot be provided for even 6 hours in a day ?

And yes, Rana Dev has been a central minister for over 12 of the past 20 years.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: rana dev's portfolio and likely impact
«on: 08/09/04 at 11:23:20 »