curfew in silchar

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curfew in silchar
«on: 11/08/04 at 02:39:02 »

in the wake of violence between marwaris and bengalis indefinite curfew is imposed in silchar from yesterday. a friend told me that violence started after a bengali boy from shib colony was killed by his marwari employers and then tried to make it look like a suicide. marwari establishments were looted and vehicles burnt down during whole night of violence. i would like to request you all to share any information you might have in this room as all silcharites living away are anxious to know about the latest.

Shankar_Chakravarti
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/08/04 at 10:39:21 »

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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/08/04 at 17:26:21 »

It is heard from reliable source that the bengali youth who was killed had affair with the daughter of that shop owner.And the killing was planned.

Today I heard that after curfew was relaxed yesterday the muslims started looting marwari shops in and around sonai road and causing havoc as a after effect of this incident . The administration was forced to again impose shoot at sight order.

Gokul Sharda
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Re: Marwari means not all Rajastani,
«on: 11/09/04 at 02:42:37 »

If one Maruah did the Murder why all other rajastani harrased by Bengali.All Rajastani are not Marwari.
Maruari means those who are from Marwa District of Rajastan & all Rajastani are not Maruari.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/09/04 at 10:29:57 »

difficult to comprehend that only the muslims did the looting during the period for which the curfew was relaxed.
if not more, then atleast 50% of the looters have been hindus as well.

cycles were brought out from shops and burned on the streets, same with computers. clothes were looted and some set fire to.
vandalism mentality at its best.

the district administration as usual, has been lackey with the response. it took them a barrage of loots and stone pelting- incidents to impose a curfew. And it takes them hours of deliberation to decide whether to relax the curfew or not and if so when.
The district admin showed thr incompetence during the elections, they double tracked it during the floods (when the ADC said.."I dont care whether the water receeds or not, I want the people seeking refuge on the school and other public buildings to move by day after tomorrow, so that those could be used for the polling....this incident did invite him the wrath of the masses who ransaked the offices) and now this incident has again brought the incompetence of the public servents to the foreground.

I dont remember many incidents in Silchar that have resulted in a situation as grave as this. And considering the general improvement in the mindset that is evidently visible in Silchar now as compared to say 10n yrs back, I would reckon that the entire responsibility for having allowed the single murder to snowball into a town- wide vandalism, rests with the district administration.

jimmy
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/09/04 at 15:52:39 »

:-[ it's hurting bout' the news of munna's death or say murder, as nothing is proved till now. But even if this was to be a case of murder, our bengali community's reaction was very harsh. We people are known to be friendly with people of all races and castes, but saturday's incident has proved all wrong.

It's high time, we act on our own ideas and our own principles and make silchar a better place to stay.

As the saying goes: Plant a tree, for you might not benefit from it......but your children will.

Nari
Nari

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/09/04 at 21:53:00 »

Hello all, I have been reading through all of your posts, everyone has their own opinion, some are talking about races and stuff. But the thing which happened was in no way justified. The protest which aroused was expected, as now it has taken an extreme turn we are talking about that, again if there would have been no protest against this inhuman act we would have talked about that also. Its not a matter of who are marwaris and who are not ,its a matter of justice, the person who died is not gonna be alive but this type of brutal attitude should not be repeated and for this the present circumstance is totally justified. We always blame ourselves that we don't have the courage to protest, and now if we raised our voice against this serious issue I believe nothing wrong in that and we should not color it through our communal feelings. Its not a Hindu Muslim riot. We should stand with all our fellow natives if not physicaly then mentally to fight against this injustice so that in future we shouldn't come across this type of thing again. I don't want to displease anyone but all I want to say is that I strictly oppose to what happened and we should not become weak in any type of controversy, rather should think about the present unrest in our home town from an ethical point of view.

shobya bengali
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 00:08:42 »

The crime committed is henious, but what followed afterwards was worse, the whole community can't be blamed for an isolated incident. I deplore what happened afterwards.

aarshula
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 01:10:30 »

nari, do not excuse barbarism with false justice. justice is not taking law into your own hands. if it was, then silchar should riot everyday. knee jerk reaction is not a sign of valour - it shows shallowness, trouble seeking attitude and jealousy at its crudest form.
also, dont bullshit by saying protest - it is a despicable, crappiest reaction that will have a very serious consequence to the future of silchar. you cannot hold an entire community responsible for an individual act.
you say we should stand by our fellow natives to fight against injustice. fight against what ? ourselves ?

asim
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 03:24:33 »

go on man...u tell her!

aami_swapnil
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 03:32:03 »

Ita to boro gondogol byapar dekhi....aami to just aailam silchar thakiya. Pujat geslam......Issshhh

bam
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 10:20:50 »

Hi,,,

Can any one tell whether the curfew is still there in Silchar.... during Kalipuja/dewali will it be there ...........

wellwisher
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 12:30:29 »

As far the latest information i got yesterday, the curfew was relaxed and on toward incident happened......good signs that normalcy is coming back fast. And very rightfully, as we are not aggresive from inside. What has happened, ever since the incident, is very unfortunate and should be categorized under "heat of the moment".

what i am worried about, is that this type of trouble creation and curfew will only help the miscreants and terrorist groups to see some light for their activities and slip into the peaceful land of Silchar. And after that, it will keep us worrying about our near and dear ones staying back at home.

So, whoever agrees with my thinking, should condemn such an activity, and help in bringing Silchar back to normalcy at the earliest. Call back and try to persuade ur friends, brothers, near and dear ones to keep away from any such activities and let Silchar be the way it always used to be.

Other name of SILCHAR is PEACE and PEACE brings in PROSPERITY and scope for all it's childrens to grow. So my earnest request to all of you to Join Hands in the time of crisis.

ohiuddin ahmed
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 13:41:41 »

the recent violence in silchar draw the attention of national and international media. this is much more a matter of surprise to those who are staying out of the valley. we came to know the news from AIR Delhi and BBC next day.we can't understand what and upto which extand happened in silchar to draw the attention of the media at such a level.

Ainul Haque Barbhuiya
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 14:02:43 »

e kai din silchoro jeta oise itha kunta bustam parsi na .maruayai higure marse u bhala tar lagi ain aase. ain nijor aatho laibar adhikar nai.thura shjug paiya lut pato lagi galai itha to baro bad kam. kuno abastay itha mana jai na. hunsi nahatar dukan jalai laisoin.baro monor maje kosto paisi. itha to silchoro kuno dun hunsi na. kali pooja. dewali.ar eidor samai itha ghatana sabtare ulta palta kari dilo.sabar dayetya akhon shanti firayia aana.
Thenzawl. Mizoram

Rupam
Rupam

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 14:14:37 »

The curfew was relaxed for half day yesterday. no incidents reported. hence unlikely that the curfew is going to extend into more than a couple of days.

talkign if injustice...every day, every single day you have this guy getting killed, that guy gettin murdered...what would happen to the place if each of these incidents were to invoke a reaction as shattering as the current one?

I doubt if any o those looters had anything to do with justice...all they had in mind was having some cheap excitement...being able to tell their acquaintances that I was there when it all happened...
all that mattered to them was stealing clothes, computers away and then making merry around the bonfire they started.

Do you think any of the businessman is going to suffer much because of this? all the goods must have been insured and he would walk merrily to the bank to get the reimbursements. And the looters looting about the town, did not help the cause of the victim either. He just has become a minor incident in this whole jamboree of the events.
self- centered scavengers holding the town to ransom.

Shib
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 15:58:17 »

the final result of all these is - some people got free 'Pujar Kapor' and 'Bhai fotar kapor'

Pappu
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 16:55:01 »

Our district admin should have been very tough while delaing with rioters.What Justice or injustice for such an incident.Hunderds of such incidents occur and I heard the Bengali workers in that shop had only killed that guy,the Marwari owner was just standing in front.Remember how ULFA has taken advantage last time by killing Biharis when some students from Assam from treated badly in Bihar.Would ULFA have done the same thing if the Bangadeshis(in Assam) have killed some students from ASSAM.

bebhoota
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 20:49:42 »

dear frends, i do condemn the reaction to the murder of munna but here i would like to twist this discussion. frends do u think if the reaction was not such munna's family would have got a penny from anyone. now they are & will be geting more compensation,that is a kind of justice in itself. otherwise his family members would have gone from pillar to post & would have got nothing. also, it is very easy to condemn any violence by merely saying that its the act of anti-social & miscreants without trying to think in depth that why such a mass mob came together and what instigated it. is it only this murder? my frends can u please tell this board what reaction u would expect from natives of any other town if their local boy was killed by a silchari. i am not anti marwah but i hate this culture of self criticism. u all would have been the ones to rue that we bangalis are spineless "dekho reba amrar towno aiya mari lailo cheletare ar amra churi poriya bouat." once again i condemn the violence and not trying to justify it but at the same time look at the history of violences and also the wars going around, its the odd one who does it & makes his community to pay the price. example is saddam. i am not comparing our marwari brothers to saddam but im comparing surana the killer with him. one or two of u said that there is justice. i wish and hope that ur faith in justice be intact, but at the same time would like to say what would have happened if there was no violence as a result of the murder. munna's body would have beencremated. there would have been no actions against his killers as they would have bought the police by then and after 10 years this case would've been closed stating that he committed suicide.

okhon gailao amare.tobe jaja koichi itain loiya ghumanir shomoy bhavio.

apadharta
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/10/04 at 21:48:27 »

We have all been talking about justice, race, religion and so on. But do we ever react to the ILLEGAL, INAPPROPRIATE and MOST UNSCRUPULOUS and HEINOUS acts od politicians and government officials...I hope we never do so. If this marwari did something wrong, he should ofcourse be punished, but what about the wrong done about these BASTARDS (politicians) who do crimes not against one or two people but across the whole lot of people living in Barak Valley. We never vandalise a Minister's property ar abuse him or his bloody " Clelas." SO that gives us not right to do something agaibst someone who is way below the crime chart compared to these bastards. After so much of education and culture, we still haven't got rid of the mentality of falling into cheap acts. One thing is for sure, no matter whoever suffers from this situation in SIlchar, our politicians are sure to milk the best of this and we are left praising them for the rest of our lives.... This is utterly disgusting. God knows when we shall realise and act against the TRUE CRIMINALS our midst...

...till then, LONG LIVE VANDALISM !!!

sidchakra76
sidchakra76

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/11/04 at 02:48:13 »

right, it would be interesting(with due respect to the deceased's soul) if anyone can update us from silchar about the reactions of different political parties and their leaders on this issue. after all this is very tricy situation and assembly elections is not far away.

counterpoint
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/11/04 at 08:59:04 »

A Bengali boy was beaten to death by a Marwari. The Marwari probably thought he could get away with it because of his money. If nothing had happened, the boy's family would have moved door to door for justice and none would have come. The police would have been bribed and they would have looked the other way. The Marwaris would have gone on to believe they can continue doing this time and again.

The north east is a jungle. Throughout the region, Bengalis are being murdered for more whimsical reasons than falling in love with the daughter. We meet violence physically or psychologically - from the 9 year old to the 90 year old. From Shillong to Kohima to everywhere else. It is time blood is paid for with blood. I haven't seen much Bengali - Marwari violence, I must admit. But in this jungle, people must sit up and take notice. That violence against us will be met with violence.

Leaving it to the state system will not work. It has not worked even before many of us were born, as our parents trudged their way from what was their land to find themselves as unwanted refugees.

In our parts of the world, only violence is a deterrent.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/11/04 at 12:03:15 »

a marwari kills a bengali, why not get hold of that bugger and beat him up, if not take him to the jail?
why beat up a marwari who has nothing to do with the act?

amrar smashan road er keu re public road er keu pitse...er legiya kita ami je public school road er cheler loge hyderabad thaki..tare pitmu na kita? ita kun dhoroner logic hoilo?

oto u dom thakle hou cheletar barit dhukiya baire aniya pitaimu...kintu er legiya tar parar je shob manusher loge amaar chinajana...who in no way are entangled in the incident...tarate rasta t paile thoda u pitapiti kormu...

Each of us knows a whole lot of marwaris from Silchar...and that incident should not in anyway snowball into a loathing for them...a criminal is a criminal...irrespective of whether he is a marwari or a bengali or any other community...

I agree that if in one of the cities that you live in and you hit out at a localite, you are going to be castigated big time. No denying that. But its them that you approach for fat money during the festivities or during any occassion...it was one of them that came out with the first relief measure before any of the bengalis ever moved their arms...during the April floods...they went around place to place and distributed khichdi in relief camps...it was one of them...and among the the looters could have been one of the benefeciaries.

bringing the city to a standstill, disrupting normal life, probably making those who earn on a hand- to- mouth basis starve for a couple of days, is no solution. vandalism is justified ONLY if there is no other way to justice...and in this case there were a few...this collective outburst could have been chained in a different manner, and yet cause some good to the family of the victim.
regards

wellwisher
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/11/04 at 13:34:57 »

bhai we all have to understand one thing.............don't have to justify ur "dadagiri" in the name of Bengali. We Bengalis are well-known as peace-lovers and fun loving and would love be recognised as that only, rather than being putting our coller-up and telling others that i am a Bihari. This will only let us down.

Bhai if you compare, you can find that boys and girls from relatively smaller Barak valley are fairing my better careerwise as compared to much bigger Assam Valley and i consider all this because of the peace back at home. A boy from our valley can focus more openly only towards his career rather than thinking about his family back at home.

And if a small fire catches in a forest, u never know which direction it will eventually go and where it will end.

We all staying outside, die to go to our loved motherland during Puja's and any other possible occasion available and we manage to meet friends from whichever community they belong and they also react the same way. Why bringing this rift among ourselves and bringing a bad name for our motherland, we always boost off.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/11/04 at 14:50:14 »

thats a point very well made, wellwisher.
we have people from various parts of the north east flocking to Silchar for education at graduation etc. levels...one reason for that being the peace the place enjoys...where people are not troubled by violence on a day- to- day basis and can look forward to a non- disruptive academic tenure. Compare the situation with some of the other regions in north east and the difficulties arising out of violence there comes to your mind...and you start appreciating how difficult it must be for them...having to live in constant fear of violence...
the peace that we have in barak valley is bliss...though we have come to take it for granted and hence do not value it much...and this is something we must always cherish and try to preserve.
You now have several commercial organizations setting up their regional offices in the region and we do not want them to have negative feelers about the place...lest they stall further ventures.

Someone asked about the politician's reactions on the issue...I do not know much...but a small news I heard was...the rigt between your MP and the MLAs from katlichara have come out in the open...
what happened was apparently dilip saha, the police whatever, stormed into Shiv Colony after the looting...alleging that people had taken the looted goods to the place...he broke into houses and people...he physically assaulted the people...aged alining people...trying to find the goods...
and...apparently HE DID NOT HAVE ORDERS FOR THAT...chinta koro...ouu manush jara oto justice err legiya crave korla loot koriya...tara incident err ektu porei police ree badha dite parlana...justice...heck with justice...loot korar dom thake are police err injustice err biruddhe daranr khomota thake na...

jai houk...the officer in question got suspended...and the MP sided with him...
there started the drama act...one of the Haliakandi district MLAs along with another MLA from Cachar district (I am sure both names are guessable) sta on side by side chairs and took the MP for a media bashing...with morality being by their side on the issue.
thats about it I know...

bebhoota
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/11/04 at 20:41:30 »

rupam babu,

i sincerely hope that my logic is wrong and that u r right. i will not argue with u. the way u think is welcome but if ur thought is put into practice there will be no violence in the whole world. no more danga/hungama/curfews. but alas the world and its junglee people doesnt think like u. thats why godhra happened. thats why the retaliation happened. thats why noakhali happened. my point once again is that let others know that bangali hindus will retaliate if attacked. point to be noted is that although there was violence nobody was injured. we bangalis are i think the champions for self criticism and self pity.

hass
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/12/04 at 10:17:32 »

friends,,,,

the people behind the all this lut-maar ,,,dhanga,,,,90% are MUSLIMS.....and they are taking the chance.....they are not at all acting as a Bengali against Marawari,,,,they r simply taking the chance of doing somthing against Hindu that's all.

If in case there is a Hindu Bangali is killed by any
NON-Bengali Muslim ,,,,,these Bengali Muslimss not at come forward......so be carefull............
AM I RIGHT JAHANGIR????????????

asol kotha
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/12/04 at 14:48:26 »

That is what I was suspecting. Ekhon confirm oilaam. Ei muslimgulo sobsomoy ot patia thake kila kichhu hindu mara jay. Assamese bengali gondogol laagle tara assamese sajia chancee bangali hindu maare. Example....Maligaon. 61 Bhasa andulonor somoy hailakandir muslim okol asomiya oigechhla. Ei sohoj kothata jen kobe amrar so called secular okhlor mathat dhukbo.

Oshombhob
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/12/04 at 21:43:48 »

Hass aar Asol Kotha'r post ekta natun dimension add korhce. Kintu Ramjan Masho Muslim-ra bule kunu gondogul kore na. Te kita rioter hokkol budhoi Hindu achla. At least shastro moto to tai hoite lage.

Assamese bhaira'r loge ager moto oto dosti budhoi okhon nai. Aajkail to Asami ra-o Bhasa Andulon kora chari diche jar lagi aar ager moto utility nai. Okhon mone hoi hishab ulta hoi geche. Okhon IMDT 'r andolan.

On the other hand Bangladesh'or bahut re dekha jai very passionate about Bangla.Tara'r koyekjoner website dekhlei intensity ta bujhta paarba.

Othocho ikhano bepaar ta ektu onyo rokom. Kunu karon khujiya pai na.

Aapnara kita koin?

Nari
Nari

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/12/04 at 23:41:37 »

Hi all, so still a lot of arguement going over this issue. Mr. arshula I'm glad that you pointed out the clearly where you disagree with me , so better agree to disagree. this is a situation where everybody's logic will differ from everybody's and this is not bad rather this is the way it should be as we live in democracy. We should have the right to put forward our reaction against any issue. I was talking about injustice and there are many instances where public protest was the source of justice. Yes we bengalis are known for peace and humour but if someone take it as our weakness that is wrong. And if there would have been no protest we bengalis would have blamed them for cowardness. In this incident no murder took place and no extreme damages, this was just a voice raised against what is ethically, logically, socially wrong that's it. my friend I don't interfere in any others' opinion but only tried to let you know about my feelings. We, sitting far way from our home town can only pray for the departed soul and his family. I completely agree with bebhoota babu and mass reaction is necessary for any type of unjust activities.

confused
confused

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/13/04 at 03:19:50 »

This incidence is very unfortunate. We don’t even know all the facts and yet giving our judgment. But this type of violence is nothing uncommon in India. Place and character changes but the play is same. Majority vs minority. Some Sikhs are at the receiving end, sometimes Hindus or sometimes Bengalis and now we see it against Marwaris in Silchar. I am thankful that nobody died in the riot. Hope normalcy will return soon.

Anindita Goyel (das)
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/13/04 at 12:48:02 »

Com'on Silchari guys... dont leave a single maura like him. Rather i shud say Silchar is a peacefull town in assam, Mauras shudnt be allowed to set there.

i_am_amnesiac
i_am_amnesiac

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/13/04 at 16:24:12 »

What has happened, should not have, but who is responsible? Its the administration which showed pathetic incompetence in handling the situation should be made to pay. But in India one cant even dream about such a thing.

a banerji
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/14/04 at 11:43:01 »

I'm trying to understand this rioting a little more. I understand the starting point and the cause - but, who are these rioteers - where does their political support come from? What is the community demographics in Silchar town?

arshula
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/14/04 at 19:53:35 »

kita koitam .. kunu budh pairam nai :) how did it go out of control. definitely at some people's fingering .. but whose oongool? the affair thing - is it a rumour or there is some truth in that? i smell there was a 'get even' kind of thing there. maybe some businessmen who do not like the prosperity of the marwaris stoked the fire. the political leaders of silchar are idiots anyway .. the less we speak of them, the better it is. we were taught in schools that a democratic government is of the people, for the ppl and by the ppl. i am not sure about the 'for' thing. we are increasingly seeing that governments (and political leaders) are not always for the people. Only prostitutes and political leaders do not need any formal qualification for their job :)

the problem is in accountability. indians are by nature very little accountable, and i think we silchari people are more so. whenever a problem or issue comes up, instead of being accountable for our action, we blame it on others. saving tail is fine - everyone in the world will do that at some point of time. but the threshold of saving tail for us is very low. most important thing is, in india, anyone can get away with anything. there is something fundamentally wrong with our way of thinking.

forgive me for saying this, but we are becoming too much problem mongers and litigative by nature. perhaps there is some method in this madness? or is it just raw and basic insticts are becoming more potent ? :)

confused
confused

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/15/04 at 02:08:55 »

[quote author=a banerji link=board=0011&num=1099858142&start=30#33 date=11/14/04 at 11:43:01]
I'm trying to understand this rioting a little more. I understand the starting point and the cause - but, who are these rioteers - where does their political support come from? What is the community demographics in Silchar town?
[/quote]
I really doubt that there is any political support for this riot. Business community in question is very liberal in donating to all political parties. Nobody would like to screw with them. Demography of silchar town is probably 95% Hindu Bengalis and 0.01% Marwaris.

bebhoota
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/15/04 at 23:16:12 »

i dont believe that anyone instigated this violence. it started by itself and do not believe anyone actually led it. political parties cannot be expected to take a quick decision to support a violence when thre is no one to support or any political mileage to be claimed from it. latest is curfew has been lifted from the night of kali puja & the town is said to be normal.

Rupam
Rupam

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/16/04 at 10:35:58 »

dont draw parallels with godhra...its a well know fact that even the retaliation was planned...just as the initial train burning was planned...most of the experts, forensic and political now agree to the fact that the entire episode was planned...

bengaliS were not attacked here...it could just have been a stray incident and nothing justifies a mass bengali outburst in this case...true, if your COMMUNITY is attacked you have every right to strike back...but what would have happened if the killing was done by a bengali? would this have assumed such widescale proportions?

and no point trying to find solace on the fact that no one was killed...because in violence, you never know when someone gets killed...
I fail to understand why not the violence was targeted at the single person who perpetrated the crime...and not at the whole community...would not that have been a better approach to justice in this case?

and if muslims were in mjority in the incidents, then doesnt most of the paints of bengali hindu chivalry, as pointed out by many, fall flat on its face?

byomokesh bakshi
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/17/04 at 03:02:08 »

aicha aicha, so rupam babu u think that godhra was planned. that the victims who died actually put fire on the train to commit suicide en masse & also they knew what would be the reaction. hmm,interesting. also they gathered thousands of muslims to be around the train at the time to witness their suicide. very interesting fact. so it was so well planned that they conspired the whole episode from the burning of the train as well as the rioting. hmm, interesting. i have to take this case in hand now to investigate. i will personally ask mr. laloo yadav & rupam babu to co-operate. this modi is bigger script writer than anyone thought. he scripted everything so well & made those karsevaks to commit suicide for everything that happened afterwards. also he scripted the murder of that mumbai girl by gujarat police calling her a terrorist although this is another matter that it was later proved by central(not state)agencies that she was indeed linked with terrorists. this was not reported by the media as much as when they claimed she was innocent. of course everything were planned. they should be punished. laloo yadav & rupam babu has a point. i will investigate this matter & make sure that modi cannot write any more scripts. also if u all want me to investigate the violence in silchar i will take that one up as well.

Prodush Mitter
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/17/04 at 12:52:02 »

byomkeshda,
aami tumar junior tomaar loge aachi. Arekta point miss korchho, traino jokhon aagun joler tokhon signal faliar mohan manush okol douria aaichhla aagun nibaibaar laagia petrol aar kerosine loia. Arua okle koin jol dia bole aagun nibni oy, sobe aamrar buddhimaan rupambabu aar laloobabur kaachh thaki shikha uchit jen aagun asole petrol aar kerosine diya nibani oy. Erpore injured jaatrirar first aidor bebosthao tara korchhoin. Arua okle bhabray nani first aid maane burnol tula aar bandage. Itaa nay, signal faliaar manushor kaachh thaki shikho, first aid oilo asole dau machet aar jotodhoroner sharp weapon aachhe ota oilo first aid. Ekhono jodi tumrar lakain buddhu okle na bujho, te jao rupam babur kachhe, tain ekta sundor explanation diba.
Arekta case-o investigate korar baaki aachhe. Keralat jen sangha poribaror manush okol musolmaan sajia Islamic Sebok sangha naam loia komse kom 20 jon hindure nirmom bhabe maarchhil. Last centurir 90th decadeor kotha. Exact year bhuligechhi, karon mediay to ita loia aar tanatani korchhe na jemon korer Jahira Sheikhre loia. Otau-to swabhabik, karon hindurar jaanor abar kuno daam aachhe ni, tarar jonmou to hoy beghore mara jawar laagia. Otar laagi islamic sebok songhore banned kora hoy na naile nu deshor secular fabric nosto oi jaibo. Er thaki aamrar otau dhori lawa bhala jen, ugro hindubadi okol muslim saajia oto hindure marchhe, amrar secularism o intact thakbo aar rupam babu aar laloobabur o jothesto somman baarbo.

byomokesh bakhi
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/17/04 at 18:16:31 »

prodush file ta banao ar amar loge aiya dekha koro.lalu babur ikhano prothom jaimu tarpore rupam babur loge dekha hoibo. ei muhurte ami gujarato earthquake ta planned achil kina ita investigate koriyar. after all at that time bjp govt was there as well. they might have planned it to perfection to get some votes. once i come closer to solve that i will take the godhra case in hand. by that time u do the paperwork. also please forward the names of those kind unnamed people who administered first aid to the victims for some good awards.

Prodush Mitter
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/17/04 at 19:34:42 »

Byomkeshda,
aami aiaar, tomaar loge investigationo join kormu. Topse ige boro jalar, koy heo bole aaito. Aar Lalmohanbabueo pichh chharra na. Topse igu boro paakna oichhe aaijkail, koy Kashmiri Pandit oklore je bhitamaatit thakia uchchhed kora hoichhil, itao bole investigate kora laagbo. Aami koto bujhailaam taare jen pandit oklor aar Kashmir valley-t thakte bhala lagchhil na dekhia tara nijor ichchhay bhitamati chharia aaichhe. Otar laagiutto mohan buddhijibi okol chupchap. Aar Kashmiri pandit mohilarar upre jen otyachar oichhil, ita aasole tarar chorito kharap aachhil dekhia. Er lagiutto Teesta Sitalvador lakain soti-saddhi oklor mukho taarar naam aay na, naile nu mukh oshuddho oi jaibo. He ita bujhe na jen meyeder somman o dhormor upre depend koria vary kore.
Jai ouk, eer majhe tumi ek kaam koro. Gujarat bhumikompot jarar pran aar sompottir haani oichhil, itaar ekta demographic study koro. Aamar to ghur sondeho earth-quake igu emonbhabe plan kora oichhil jaate kaali sonkhyaloghu oklor u loss oy.

Dr James Watson
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/17/04 at 22:21:41 »

Messrs Bakshi & Mitter,

Mr Holmes has gone to take on Prof Moriarty so unfortunately he would not be able to join you in your investigations although he would have very much liked to.

He has asked me to express his solidarity with the cause and should it be required he would be most pleased to join you.

Meanwhile please explore how the two old men namely HKS Surjeet & Jyoti Basu can be compulsorily retired from public life. These two need to be consigned to history at the earliest.They have held a particular community hostage to inaction for the last quarter of a century.

Meanwhile happy investigation......

byomokesh bakshi
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/18/04 at 02:01:24 »

prodush,

give the case of kashmir to topse to investigate. tell lalmohan babu that if he can take up the case of indira gandhi. i was told that she actually committed suicide to attract the violence afterwards. i dont really believe that but if 70 people in godhra could commit suicide then.......... . prodush, please look into my diary to see that can i take another case. some people are paying me hefty to investigate whether babri masjid was built by hindus at that time demolishing ram mandir hoping to see a reaction after 400 years. if everything is planned then that may well be. i will not take any further case for a few months to come. bhala thakio ar mashimare amar bijoyar shubheccha diyo. tumar ei mashor salary tumi 3-4 mashor modhye paibay.

iti tomar

byomokesh da

byomokesh bakshi
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/18/04 at 02:06:51 »

dr. watson,

saw your mail and noted the contents therein. i would like to remind you that jyoti babu & surjeet ji are key witnesses to all these cases. please do not intimidate them. in this respect can i request you to take some of this cases up yourself and if you need any help just ask rupam babu.

Sam D Silva
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/18/04 at 10:43:41 »

hi b bakshi,mr watson and mr junior of bakshi ....we silcharians are really good for nothing .... u guys r just showing ur hatred towards the minorities...think about us ..we the silcharians outside silchar open this page to update ourselves...so it will be better if u guys show ur intelligence in some other room...or change the title of the room.....thanx ....well mr rupam i think u alone r sufficient to handle these guys otherwise i fully agree with u...n thr for u........and i will be thankful if u guys continue updating the current situations....itar legi kuiraam beshi mathha naa lagaya kaajer jinish lekhle besh bhalo hoe...bujraye to tumra detective hogol? aar rupam aami tumar replyer wait korraam kintu...sario na ita bekkol hogol re..hala hogol jagat mathha dhukaya morey

raghuvir
raghuvir

Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/18/04 at 16:46:43 »

if godhra was shocking..the reaction to it is numbing..similarly what that marwari did that to his worker was heinous to say the least the reaction fo sylheti bengalis after that has been a shocker...i failed to understand how the whole comunity can be branded as something else for what one single guy did...every community has its shining angels and its black sheep and by the grace of the almighty the syhletis i have interacted with in the 27 years of my existience have been more towards the former category. Yes once ina while have come accross that black sheep but not for a moment have i fooled myself into thinkin the "whole" community was represented by that sample. ..but what happened in silchar last few days and the last few posts in this thread have left me deeply disturbed and and anguished. maybe the famed bengali openmindedess and cultural upbrining is now just a thing of the past...the rammohan roys, the tagores,the satyajit rays the arun chandas ..thier legacy has bitten the dust with them them...what we had was a community known for his manners, its ettiqutte, known as the cultural HQ of the country where great minds thought years and decades ahead of the rest of the country and showed the path to becoming the "adarsh purush" or now what seems the jarring term the"bhadralok"..what we have now is group of rowdies living on the ego of a glorious past which is never gonna come back( no signs of it atleast) and consider themsleves superior to the average tom dick harry and ramu walking on the street...the reaction to tht incident and subsequent posts here enofrce tht belief...bengalis....pls go ahead and prove me wrong...i dare u..no i implore...let my coming genreations also ahve the glorified image of your community that my forefathers had and i inherited because of thier high opinion

byomokesh bakshi
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/19/04 at 05:40:57 »

mr d silva,

i never glorified the violence after godhra incident. it was as shameful as the burning train itself. but this is not right in sharing the grief of the riot victims if people try to malign the victims in that train who also lost their lives. you, me and all know that if that train wasnt burnt nothing would have happened afterwards. those relatives who lost their loved ones in the riot suffered as much as the relatives of the train victims. how could one justify that carnage as planned when so many innocent lives were lost. let us deplore the rioteers as much as those who burnt that train. my friend, secularism is not trying to justify whatever one community does and criticse the other. it is best practiced when you treat both as same, in glorifying as well as in criticising. i am trying to provoke some thoughts. of course you are intelligent than i am but please use your intelligence with parity. by doing this you will do good not for any community but for the whole society.
meanwhile, my investigation continues. i will come back to you all. prodush, stay with me. let us find out the truth. if that train incident is proved to be planned i will take back all that i said above.

Kanai Lal
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Re: Stop employing bengali,
«on: 11/21/04 at 14:34:19 »

After the riot & all the film finish we all Rajastani deside one thing that we shouldn't give any job to the total bengali & we sould import labour from Rajastan only. We are giving so many new business which can't think by Barrak People & against of that they are looting us, protecting us.
There will be clash if some people work with each other automatically. Clash in each home,each company,each college,each school,each market, each mandir, every place but its not means loot the total people from that community.

sam d silva
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Re: curfew in silchar
«on: 11/21/04 at 19:19:13 »