brishti
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What is God for you?
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07/24/05 at 02:54:06 » |
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I always think what is God, who is God, where is God. I do trust that God is there, but the only one logic behind that works behind the trust, is the whole cosmos is running in very planned way. If not human, who and what is the energy that keeps it running since don’t know when. That super power is God.
When we were kid, our parents used to tell us “Thakur nomo koro shona!” We do not know who thakur is and where he is, because our parents are the primary source of knowledge to us after birth, so we start making the concept of God as a part of life. I learnt from my mother how to pray. We learn that after parents, God is the protector from all the evils of life.
To me God is more of a friend that I think I can share everything with and I need not worship Him everyday, to get His attention, that He is always there for me, He’s within me. Sometimes when I feel frustrated I get angry with Him, and tell Him that Hey God! I hate you for that, I was wronged, your judgment was wrong!!
Have you ever tried and think what God is to you? :)
(I posted it earlier also, but due to the site problem the data was lost, as I was genuinely interested in this topic I posted it again, hope you would share your thoughts.)
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didibhai
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Re: What is God for you?
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Interesting point 'brishti'. "When we were kid, our parents used to tell us “Thakur nomo koro shona!” We do not know who thakur is and where he is".
Most of the teaching our parents pass on to us has been what is passed on to them from their parents and the chain before that. Without realisation of course. 'Thakur namo koro' is very common way of teaching a child to bow from the beginning, starting with bowing to 'GOd'. This helps in understanding that our ego, pride and aggression is surrendered to 'God' first and then one learns to control its ill effects later in life. Meditation has now been accepted as the most effective therapy for various problems including, depression, weight control, breathing, muscle relaxation etc. worldwide. Furthermore, being enclosed with an image (ie, deity) while meditating helps to control one's concentration.
Unfortunately, we are very naive and accept many facet of our teaching without due cause and effect. While most of the philosphies mainly consists of our well being, safety and self-realisation. 'God' for me is my path towards gaining knowledge through devotion and if that translates to slight self-realisation in this life then I may have attained some godly (not literal) characteristics. |
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shaan
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Re: What is God for you?
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ektu udasin kintu tonnistho hoia vogoban kujley besh hoy, besh ekta apekhik mala r moto, chirodin gatha jay jarey... kunkhaney?...yes guessed it right....monomondir? :)
taain to gaan gaaiya aaita nay, jani, deep nia shunnyey shunnyey poth chaiya o ami nay, amar ekanto vogoban er sonar tori jeno sob chaitey easily accesible, shobshomoy, shob jaygay, 24*7 koa jay nani :)
ar biporitey bhabi, shillong er kono ochena pahar takia aaoa kono nodir par ey purana piyal gacher nich ey, jongli laal nil shobuj holud phool dia puja puja korley besh hoy
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shaan
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=0#1 date=07/24/05 at 08:14:54]
Interesting point 'brishti'. "When we were kid, our parents used to tell us “Thakur nomo koro shona!” We do not know who thakur is and where he is".
Most of the teaching our parents pass on to us has been what is passed on to them from their parents and the chain before that. Without realisation of course. 'Thakur namo koro' is very common way of teaching a child to bow from the beginning, starting with bowing to 'GOd'. This helps in understanding that our ego, pride and aggression is surrendered to 'God' first and then one learns to control its ill effects later in life. Meditation has now been accepted as the most effective therapy for various problems including, depression, weight control, breathing, muscle relaxation etc. worldwide. Furthermore, being enclosed with an image (ie, deity) while meditating helps to control one's concentration.
Unfortunately, we are very naive and accept many facet of our teaching without due cause and effect. While most of the philosphies mainly consists of our well being, safety and self-realisation. 'God' for me is my path towards gaining knowledge through devotion and if that translates to slight self-realisation in this life then I may have attained some godly (not literal) characteristics.
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i agree with u...didibhai (or dadabhai??
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Hakuna Matata
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Re: What is God for you?
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07/26/05 at 02:26:38 » |
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Bogoban ja koren mongoler jonno!! 8) |
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Re: What is God for you?
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GOD...What is GOD, who is GOD....where is GOD....and so many questions around the mysticism of that eternal force that prevails and defies all explanation.
To understand God I believe we have to understand the life that has brains enough to think, and often the impudence to challenge his existence. MAN...oh the man, how many times in the history of your evolution you have been ripped apart, peeled off your pride, but still you question the existence of GOD.
If you ask a scientist, and impudent one, he would say there is no GOD, no life, no death. Its all but the transformation of energy from one form to another. Or maybe a big bio chemical reaction which is the resultant of the "big bang"....slowly combining the amino acids to form the first block of protoplasm....the first biological matter which slowly evolved into the first form of life. That negates your belief "brishti" that GOD is a form of energy. Well...He/She/it is just a bio-chemical and physical reaction just recycling energy from one form to another.
Here I would like to refer to one of my esteemed teachers.....".."to understand energy you must first understand energy can not be created nor destroyed."
What if energy never was created? Where is a thought before you think it? It’s nowhere, but when you think it, it’s somewhere. Where does it go after you’ve thought it? It goes nowhere. But you can think it again the next moment.
What if energy and matter are thoughts? Yes, as long as they’re being thought, energy and matter are interchangeable, but what is the originator of the energy and matter?
At its base, it’s more accurate to think of all the material realm as energy, but in different forms, just as water, ice, and vapor are H2O in different forms.
Now, are thoughts energy? Is love energy? Can energy affect thoughts? Energy certainly can affect the “player” that plays the thoughts, the brain, but it can’t affect a thought. A nuclear explosion can’t change a thought, although it will destroy the instrument that plays the thought. If I’m thinking, “I’m in the mood for a pizza,” can a bright light alter the thought? Can a blast of intense heat or any other energy alter the thought? No. What happens is that it causes other thoughts to appear: “Turn off that light!” But energy can’t affect thoughts.
Now, can thoughts affect energy? Oh, yes. Many studies now show that thoughts can affect plants, other people, the makeup of water, numbers in a random-number generator, and a great variety of other material things.
Everyone knows that thoughts can impede or speed heal. Read the description of Elisabeth Kubler-Ross’s encounter with Mrs. Johnson, a woman who had been dead for two years when she walked down the hall with her. And I have other stories of the same thing happening. In other words, consciousness could create a physical body and then have it disappear back into the place where thoughts are before they’re thought.
What all that means is that thoughts affect energy and matter, but energy and matter can’t affect thoughts. You can smash an atom, but you can’t smash a thought. That means that energy and matter are subsets of thoughts; energy and matter have at their basis thought. The universe is most likely not the result of a big bang, but a big thought.
I know you’re going to ask, “Then who’s the thinker?” Well, you’re the thinker. And I’m the thinker. And everyone else in the universe who ever lived, lives now, or will live are the thinkers. We don’t know anything about a thinker beyond that, and that’s appropriate. We are the universe, and that’s all we need to know.
But no amount of logic is going to bring you to believe that. You have to experience it. You will. One day, it will come to you. You’ll realize in a flash that there is no time; there is no space; there is no death; and there is no separation. Something will happen. And at that moment, everything else will fall into place. Then you’ll know. And you’ll be changed forever."......
Well then can we say that thought is also energy....and if energy cannot be created or destroyed just like the mystic Krishna of The Geeta....it is incomprehensible and that is to my belief is God.
Bhagaban sob somoi bhalo o hoi na....He is just like the leukocytes or the WBC in our blood cells. Whenever antibodies enter our blood the leukocytes create antizens to fight these antibodies. Similarly, when we are hurt or depressed, or want something and know not how to get that, we create our own beliefs and our own Gods. So, who is Shiva? or Durga or Christ...or Allah.... He he ......human beings think but to retain that thought we need material basis, personification of thoughts in man or matter. Thats how these Gods came.........
Tobe bhogoban is for me a philosophy....a "THOUGHT" .....a refuge which actually boosts my self confidence, as my weak mind somehow finds solace in the belief that GOD exists and as Hakuna Matata said, "Bhogoban ja kore mongol er jonyo kore". I would rather choose God over mortals as he would not let me down. And if he does not exist he would just be a thought, harmless thought and just a "PHILOSOPHY".
Well this has become a long post to begin with.....aasha kori comments paimu....please feel free to email me at gaurav1424@rediffmail.com as well.
Tobe sesh korar aagey ....brishti aar tomra sob re ekta proshno churi....why is it that we see that people get inclined to God as they grow older in age. Lets discuss.
Kaalke dekha hoibo ne....
"Where science ends....philosophy starts........................."
"THAKUR TUMI DEKHI AAMAR MOTO AALEYA"
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mon_amar
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Re: What is God for you?
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07/29/05 at 04:34:59 » |
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You have expressed it well Aleya...keep it up :D |
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didibhai
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Re: What is God for you?
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Dear Aaleya
'Gyan and Bigyan' is a competitive force. In every aspect of our lives we have to extract 'Gyan out of Bigyan'. Even philosophies have extracts of bigyan (science) as much your everyday cooking. If we take all the Veda's they are all construed with philosophical science. Therefore I disagree with your last comments "Where science ends....philosophy starts.........................".
They are both on the ends of the same string, pulling at each other, never meeting, never ending, but, complimenting each other in providing the very force and meaning to lifes existence.
Bh = Emotion
ag = Fire
w = Vayu
an = Anna (rice)
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Bijili
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Re: What is God for you?
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07/29/05 at 19:55:51 » |
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"ratha-yarta lookaranna, ati dhum-dham,
bhaktera lutaye pathe koriche pronam.
rath bhaba ami "dev", path bhabe "ami",
murti bhabe ami "dev", sahe antaryami"
rabindrath thakur.
ki sundar bhabe rabindranath tnar ishwar chetonar bhabnake prokash korechen!
ratha-yatrar mohotsabe koto manush rath ke sparsha kore saubhagya-ban mone korche, keu sundor mrinmay murti ke pronam kore punya arjan korche, keu abar ratho-dolito pother dhula kopale tilok diye atmake pabirto korche, "aay re sobe tante hobe rashi, ghorer konay roili kothay boshi", keu rather dorike tene mone korche iho-poro kaler baitorani bujhi par hoye gelo.
antar-yami bhakter antore biraj koren. bhakto je bhabe tar ishwar ke kalpona kore, se bhabei sei bhakto tar ishwar ke labh kore. ekjoner ishwar kalpona arekjoner ishwar kalpona majhe betikram sob samay thake. taai ramkrishna bolechilen, "joto mot, toto path". aar ei bibhinno moter chinta-dharar bikasher swadhinota thaka prottek manusher ba panir janmogoto adhikar.
ek bekti aaj ja biswas korche hoyto kaal ta korbe na. sei bektir addhattik poribortoner mane ei noy je taar kono nirdishto biswas er moter bikar dhoteche. "manush poribortan-shil". sokol pranir jemon kaler atikromer lilay deher poriborton hoy, temni moner o poriborton hoy. aar ei moner poribortoner sathe sathe amader aaddattik poriborton ghote. shaishobe tepantorer math aar thaurmar jhulir sob rakkoshera ek somoy moner gobhire jagroto chilo. koishore ramayan aar mahabharat pore mone hoyechilo bibhishan aar hanumaar aajo jibito aachen, aaro boro hoye geeta, upanishad, aranyak, ved-vedanta, kuran, bible, tripitak, ebong adhunik kaler monishider dharma-mat pore bibhinno mahapurusher (nanrir) ishwar chetonar anubhober sammukkhin hoyechi. aabar biporit dike nastik ba anishwar bader chitadharakeo eki bhabe gurutto diyechi. sadharam gramya loukik puja-parbon theke hajar shomiker srom diye tairi swarga-sparsha-jukto, akash-chuya
mandirer alankrito sanskrit mantra diye bhohoban ke aradhona korteo dekhechi. dekhechi maha-kundulini ke jagrata korar jonno diner por din taposh yogi, abar london e anubhob korechi atanka-badider atanko jara ishwar bhabonar andho-biswashe prokopito hoyeche.
ei chetona ta ki jake amra ishwar boli? manush ei chetonar anubhob korte kina kore. ei chetona ki shudhui anubhob? aaddatter ek churanto porjaye pouche giye manush ja anubhob kore taai ki "satya" ba "iha"? koto dur porjonta ei anubhober prokash dhote? manusher mastishker bikasher sathe sathe ki amader ishwar chetonar chinta dhara kothin na sahaj hocche?
Manab-sabhatar suryadoyer prothom kirone prakritir na bujha rahashho theke janmo niyechilo oishwarik chetonar. ritu-paroborton kimba maha-kasher rahashya chilo oshwarik karma-kando. tokhon manush sei prathomik mastishker gyan dwara bujhte perechilo je tader cheyer keu ekjon ba bohu-jon shakti-shali keu aachen jini ei samasta prakritik shaktir adhar. porobortikale manusher mastisker bikashe sathe manush anubhob korlo je ei mahan shakti ke tushto rakhle ati-brishti kimba khora hobe na. taai janmo nilo bibinno achar-procharer jake amra "puja" bole thaki. gach amader phol, phul, oushodh, jalani, ittadi dey, taai danyabadante gaach ke manush puja korte shuru korlo. akash brishti dey, surjo aalo dey, chandra shobha dey, batash chara jibon dharon korte pare na taai bayur puja shuru holo, nadi theke jol-shechon kora hoy, taai nodi debotar rup dharon korlen.
dhire dhire manusher bhasha bebharer unnotir sommonnoye pujar achar-procharer sange jug dilo moudhik shobder, jake amra mantra bole thaki. poroborti kale sabhyatar sathe sathe janmo nilo "gan" ba "barna" budher. ishwar aar sadharon manusher majhe setu-bandhoner ekmarto upay holo uccha borner protibha-shali kichu sakkhok manush jader ke amra "purohit" bole thaki. aaro poroborti-kale manush dhire dhire janmo-mriryu ebong poro loker chinta korte shuru korlo. tokhon ishwar chetonar anubhuti kothin ba aaro rohoshyo-moy hoye uthlo. kichu sakkhok manush prakritir rahashya charao nijer anubhutir dike nojor dilo. tara anubhob korlen je nijer chintar adharei lukano aache sokol proshner uttor. tara rader chetonake anubhob korte jongol upobone giye tader proshner chitar gobhire probesh kore sokol prokarer loukik ebong aloukik riti-nitir sima periye ja anubhob kore korechilen, taai amra aronnok ba uponishode peye thaki. aar tader ke amra "rishi" boli. ei rishider ishwar chetona aar loukik acharer majhe prochur parthokya chilo. dhire dhire "dharma" aar "darshan" alada hote laglo. kono "dharma" te iswarer ba debotar pradhanno thaka abashok hoye uthlo. kintu opor dike "darshan" e ishwar thaka ba na thaka joruri na hoye uthlo. sei thake prithibir charidike janmo holen bibinno darshonikder. zarathrshta, confucius, buddha, mahavir, socrates ebong aaro oneke. tara sobai ishwar chetonar anubhob korechen kintu sampurno alada bhabe. poroborti kale aaro monishira bibhinno mot pushon korechen. oneke oitihashik bekti der ishwarer rup diyechen kimba ishwarer abatar bolechen. Geeta r rochoyita krishna ke bolechen tini swayang ishwar. abar bible boleche ishwar kono din janmo-grahan koren na kintu tini tar prerito dut prithibite pathan. buddha bolechen, ishwar bole kichui nei, keboli anubhuti. prithibite sothik bhabe "madhya path" diye jibon dharon korte hoy taai tini shikkha diyechen. tini boleche, "ami tumake sathik path dekhabo kintu tumakei sei path diye jete hobe" jekhane jusus boleche "amar kache esho, ami tumake swarge niye jabo" aar krishna bolechen "karma-pholer opekkhay theko na, karma kore jaao, ami karma-pholer data, ami ishwar". bibhinno dharmo mote betikram dekha dilo. adhunik kaler monishider majhe ramkhishnoi emon ek maha purush jini sokol dharma-moter aromborke tuccho na kore tnar aaddhattik jagorito monon-shilota theke chirontan-kari ek bani bolechilen "joto moto, toto path". jodio ami ishwar e biswas kori na kintu ei banir majhei ami maha-manober akhil premer anandamay ishwar ke khuje peyechi!
iti bijli :) |
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Re: What is God for you?
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hi
i think you stay either in tarapur or in link road at silchar. is it not. what do you say? By the way, what is god for us has got nothing to do with who is god and how he works and what we, creatures are for God. What do you think of my opinion? Huh... bogus... alright... thank you. 8) :o ;D ;) ??? |
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didibhai
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Re: What is God for you?
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Dear Bijili
Where do you get the time to write all this. I edit magazines and even I don't have the patients to write such long messages. Hats off to you girl!!! 8) 8) |
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synclaire_beauty
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Re: What is God for you?
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I just set my eyes at this discussion while glancing through the posts on a very lazy friday, was not in the temperament of arguing on the existence of any supernatural power or God but was hitched by my Conscience to express my thoughts and by doing so I may offend some....
Apologise in advance
[quote author=aaleya link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=0#5 date=07/26/05 at 10:35:42]
....Here I would like to refer to one of my esteemed teachers.....".."to understand energy you must first understand energy can not be created nor destroyed.....
"......Yes, as long as they’re being thought, energy and matter are interchangeable, but what is the originator of the energy and matter.......
.....Bhagaban sob somoi bhalo o hoi na....He is just like the leukocytes or the WBC in our blood cells. Whenever antibodies enter our blood the leukocytes create antizens to fight these antibodies.....
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Isnt this the Law of Conservation of energy??? so ur physics teacher cannot copyright it ???
Is the word "originator"proxying for the word "origin" ::)
WHAT??????
leukocytes create antigens????????
would you mind reversing your logic between antiGEN and antibodies.
Antibodies donot enter your body but are produced or activated in response to antigen invasion.
so now decide for ur self who is the bad guy antigen or antibody
Again my apologies as I just messed around a topic/posts with incorrect fundaaas!!!
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Count_Dracula
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=0#10 date=07/30/05 at 07:24:47]
Dear Bijili
Where do you get the time to write all this. I edit magazines and even I don't have the patients to write such long messages. Hats off to you girl!!! 8) 8)
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Are you a Medical Practitioner too........Oh! Me!
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asiti
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=synclaire_beauty link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=0#11 date=07/30/05 at 10:15:07]
WHAT??????
leukocytes create antigens????????
would you mind reversing your logic between antiGEN and antibodies.
Antibodies donot enter your body but are produced or activated in response to antigen invasion.
so now decide for ur self who is the bad guy antigen or antibody
Again my apologies as I just messed around a topic/posts with incorrect fundaaas!!!
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Ha Ha Ha......Bujhi laisi...otodin pore bujhi laisi tumi ke...Kita go bhala ni? ;) |
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synclaire_beauty
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Re: What is God for you?
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07/30/05 at 22:09:02 » |
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Bhala asi Asiti da ;D (my Colgate ishmile)
Tumaar loge onek din dhoria chataisi na, missing that a great deal.
Ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!
tumar pet patlaa nai ami jani and I trust you ;) |
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didibhai
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=Count_Dracula link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=0#12 date=07/30/05 at 13:09:37]
Are you a Medical Practitioner too........Oh! Me!
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No, Dracula but I am good at jabbing! My services free of charge. :o |
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mon_amar
mon_amar
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Re: What is God for you?
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Akash bhora
Surjo tara
Bishyo bhora pran
Tahari majh khaane
Ami peyechhi
Peyechhi mor sthan
Bishmoye
Tai jage
jage amar gaan....
Thats what expresses my feelings to GOD so well. I cannot type long posts giving documents and logics to my view point, I lack patience. Thats a lacking within me. But who really can, like Alyea and Bijili and some others, I really appreciate them. About Bijili's posts I always acquire some extra information from her posts. Keep it up Bijili :D |
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Hakuna Matata
TIMON
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/03/05 at 18:17:02 » |
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Hi
I pary to God
Mujhko bhi toh lift dilade
thorisi toh lift karade
$ de yaa £ dede
ek lambi gadi dede
Thori chhappar far maula
ek nehi do char maula
Amar chai onek kichhu...kintu koshto korte monchaina, tai thakur daki ;D |
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aaleya
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Re: What is God for you?
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Ha Ha Ha.....Synclear di.....aamar o tomare chinte bhul hoise na....by the way....please apologies koio na....aamar science somporke gyan ta kintu Higher Secondary porjontoi....aar antigen, antibody te gulai laisi....sorry :-[ :-[ :-[
Adda maanei to aar sob somoi post er prosongsha nai
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mon_amar
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Re: What is God for you?
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Alya, dont mind....eikhane shobai bondhu, aar bondhura bhul dhoraiya na dile ke dito? Abar bhalo kichhu korle shobche age amrai khushi haimu. :) |
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brishti
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Re: What is God for you?
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Thank you friends for shaing your opinion and feelings for God.
Those friends who did not, I hope they will also give us a couple of minutes frm their precious time to jot dwon a line or two here. :D
Small small incignificant incidents sometimes give us so deep knowledge, that it changes our perception towards a certain matter or exxistence or an issue. I will share such an incident with you when I have time. I consider it as God's own way of teaching us.
Bye friends! :D |
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Hakuna Matata
TIMON
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Re: What is God for you?
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Dear God, I dont want to say what I want in my life just click here to know my wish.:
http://www.lintukoto.net/viihde/mielenosoitus/kuva.php?teksti=We%20Want%20TIMON%20as%20CEO%20of%20Microsoft!!%20 |
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Javed
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Re: What is God for you?
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God
there is no god but He, the Living, the Everlasting.
Slumber seizes Him not, neither sleep;
to Him belongs
all that is in the heavens and the earth
Who is there that shall intercede with Him save by His leave?
He knows what lies before them
and what is after them,
and they comprehend not anything of His knowledge
save such as He wills.
His Throne comprises the heavens and earth;
the preserving of them oppresses Him not;
He is the All-high, the All-glorious. […]
God is All-hearing, All-knowing.
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That’s my Semitic faith of God, but I guess my humanistic way would be “God is the divine force (any faiths) for all goodness of all mankind.”
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mon_amar
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Re: What is God for you?
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Good one Javed!!
Ekta gaan mone pore Nida Fazlirs lekha...
Ghar se masjid hai bahat dur
Chalo yun karle
Kisi rotey huye bachhe ko hasaya jai... :)
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debasish_ch
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Re: What is God for you?
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Aar ekta line, Harivansh Rai Bachchan-er.
Mandir Masjid bair karaati,
Prem karaati Madhushala.
Thats actually the best place for soul searching, an endeavour to search our inner gods. |
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didibhai
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Re: What is God for you?
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Our innerselves is Godly. The relationship between 'Aatma and Paramatma'. For me if 'Aatma' is my soul, then 'Paramatma' is my inner soul, and if I can feel my inner soul, I have attained 'self realisation' and become more closer to 'God'. |
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synclaire_beauty
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=aaleya link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=15#18 date=08/04/05 at 08:17:15]
Ha Ha Ha.....Synclear di.....aamar o tomare chinte bhul hoise na....by the way....please apologies koio na....aamar science somporke gyan ta kintu Higher Secondary porjontoi....aar antigen, antibody te gulai laisi....sorry :-[ :-[ :-[
Adda maanei to aar sob somoi post er prosongsha nai
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Aaleya I appreciate your spirit(alcohol mean korraaam na kintu!! ;D )
You play the game in the spirit of the game
Cheers!!!
by the way, my gray cells are working very hard, kintu chinte paariaar na tumare ??? |
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Count_Dracula
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=15#25 date=08/10/05 at 06:06:16]
I have attained 'self realisation' and become more closer to 'God'.
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[B]Oh! Really......!![/B]
I never felt you have approached that close to me!!
By the way..did you ever see me....even in your most enjoyable nightmare..
[B]Oh! Me![/B] |
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udaam
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Re: What is God for you?
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A God is alright. Problem is with "the" God. And if all institutional religions are banned, it will be good too ... half of world's problems would be solved.
Personally, no .. don't really need a God :) |
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ravi
ravi
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=15#25 date=08/10/05 at 06:06:16]
The relationship between 'Aatma and Paramatma'. For me if 'Aatma' is my soul, then 'Paramatma' is my inner soul, and if I can feel my inner soul, I have attained 'self realisation' and become more closer to 'God'.
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Can't agree with you didibhai. According to all the scriptures atma is our inner self and pramatma is the all encompasing conscience of which atma is a part. I could not understand the difference between 'my soul' and 'my inner soul'. Of course, everybody has their own views.
Self realization is a very interesting thing. Once you attain self realization, immediately you know the God and not become closer, you mingle yourself with God. Though atma and paramatma are considered as separate entities there is no essential difference between them. Just one is a part of the greater other. So, the aim of all spiritual practices is to know the self or soul and since it is the same as God once you know the true self, you immediately know the God, that is what is called self realization. |
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synclaire_beauty
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Re: What is God for you?
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[quote author=ravi link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=15#29 date=08/10/05 at 20:32:09]
Can't agree with you didibhai. According to all the scriptures atma is our inner self and pramatma is the all encompasing conscience of which atma is a part. I could not understand the difference between 'my soul' and 'my inner soul'. Of course, everybody has their own views.
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Ravi would u mind if I try explaining ? :)
I guess atma is the narikelor thaali (brown colour ta)
and pramatma is the narikelor shaansh (white colour ta);D
am not good in botany, but adopted narikel to explain the concept, and if you havnt understood the concept, do not bang the narikel on my head as I havnt got it too ;D
but missing narikel laddoo after typing narikel multiple number of times
narikel ashani /narikelor sondesh :P |
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mon_amar
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/11/05 at 00:40:20 » |
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I agree with Ravi...there is a simple example for this.
Atma is a drop of water and Paramatma is the Ocean. The Salvation is attained when the drop of water meets the ocean.Atma meets the Paramatma. That Paramatama is GOD, who is almighty, he is everywhere.
The difference between Atma and paramatam is the Atma is the ice cube and the Paramatma is the water. We, all living beings are the manifestation of that Almighty.
Salvation means realization of the supremacy of infinite Mind over all bringing with it the destruction of the illusion of sin, sickness, and death, liberation from ignorance or illusion.
Sri Ram Krishna Param Hansa ar bhashai jake bole "Neti", Brahma Gyan prapti. After which there is no difference between the Atma and the Paramatma. As Param is the Ultimate!! :)
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didibhai
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/11/05 at 07:05:29 » |
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=15#25 date=08/10/05 at 06:06:16]
Our innerselves is Godly. The relationship between 'Aatma and Paramatma'. For me if 'Aatma' is my soul, then 'Paramatma' is my inner soul, and if I can feel my inner soul, I have attained 'self realisation' and become more closer to 'God'.
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Dear Ravi
What you said is very true. What I wrote was my own thought and expression of how I relate to 'God'. But, I am not sure I agree with you when you say "Once you attain self realization, immediately you know the God and not become closer, you mingle yourself with God".
Attaining self -realisation doesn't necessarily mean you 'know God'. For me self-realisation is to know the inner you, kill all the ills within. Free your mind from all negative forces, aggression, ego & pride. At least if a person can attain those in a lifetime he/she may become closer to God. That was the ethos behind my posting. Although I understand that there are various interpretations and scriptures that relates to it.
But, I feel that these very high thinking, probably would be difficult to attain. So for myself I have simplified the meaning in order to make it possible to at least try and attain something in this life time.
Don't know if it makes sense to anyone else?
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Shovon Chakraborty
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/11/05 at 14:43:02 » |
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=30#32 date=08/11/05 at 07:05:29]
For me self-realisation is to know the inner you, kill all the ills within. Free your mind from all negative forces, aggression, ego & pride.
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Beg to differ didibhai. Aggression, ego & pride to me are positive life forces. Without these, atleast I shall be professionally dead in no time, dunno abt the others.
And to talk about god, first of all let us resolve who created whom. Man created god or God created man? When the answer is clear to me, then only I can talk about god. |
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didibhai
Kavita_Gupta
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/11/05 at 17:10:19 » |
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[quote author=Shovon Chakraborty link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=30#33 date=08/11/05 at 14:43:02]
Beg to differ didibhai. Aggression, ego & pride to me are positive life forces. Without these, atleast I shall be professionally dead in no time, dunno abt the others.
And to talk about god, first of all let us resolve who created whom. Man created god or God created man? When the
answer is clear to me, then only I can talk about god.
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If the theory of three guna's has any creditability ie 'satya, rojo and toma', then it is said that the circumstances in which one conducts or reacts to these forces has either positive or negative effects.
I find that for instance, solving a problem with anger only exacerbates the situation, even if I am in the right. But, a clear conscious in solving the problem makes you think better. The same can be said of ego and pride. I suppose I over simplified my posts like I always do.
And of your second point 'resolving who created who?
Well, this would be a huge debate with differing mindset. But, I for one like to think logic and feel that the power of the human mind is the greatest creation or evolution whatever one may call it. It is here that we create or seek salvation from ourselves, although for some people 'salvation' may mean something else.
If you read my posts we will realise that my theories on this is very personal and others have different views, and I respect that. But, it is nice to share all types of views.
So please carry on. |
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Bijili
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/17/05 at 17:09:00 » |
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Amra onekei "Ekeshwar-baad" ebong "Avatar-baad" niye alochona korlam. "Atma"r sathe "Paramatma" sammondho niyeo onek motamot lekha holo. "Muksha" kar kache kemon tao onekei likhlen, kintu "Nirishwar-baad" niye keu kono kichui bollen na.
Nirishwar-baad Bharote prachin-kal thekei alochito hoye ashche ebong Ajita Kesakamabalir moto onek mahatma Charvaka moter prochar korechilen ja puran Bharote khub sara diyechilo. Charvaka Dharmer mote mrityui jiber antim porinoy. Mrityur por kono poro-lok nei. Tara Ishwar ba Oishwarik riti-niti te biswas korto na. Karma othoba Vaidik moter birodhi chilo.
Onekei ei Charvaka mot ke Bauddho morer sathe tulona koren kintu Bouddho aar Charvaka mot sampurno aalada.
Bishesh janar jonno nimne ullekhito website gulite porilokkon korun.
Iti Bijli :)
http://hinduwebsite.com/history/athiesm.htm
http://www.answers.com/topic/carvaka
http://www.icpr.nic.in/carvakal_lokayata.htm
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REC_95
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Re: What is God for you?
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Still not discovered who is God but according to me there is something whom we worship and beleive.
That worship and belief takes ourself always in right direction.
When you pray to God, you get confidence which results success in your journy.
Atleast for 1 minute daily after taking bath pray to God and submit yourself completely in front of him. Its sure and certain that day will be fine and you will be taking right decesion at right time.
Its Dutta
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ravi
ravi
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/25/05 at 23:57:19 » |
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=30#32 date=08/11/05 at 07:05:29]
Attaining self -realisation doesn't necessarily mean you 'know God'. For me self-realisation is to know the inner you, kill all the ills within. Free your mind from all negative forces, aggression, ego & pride. At least if a person can attain those in a lifetime he/she may become closer to God.
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Your writing surely makes sense didibhai. I have high regards for your views, though I beg to differ to some extent. You have very nicley summerized the meaning of self-realization that it is to know the inner you (self). However, the rest part of the statement "kill all the ills within. Free your mind from all negative forces, aggression, ego & pride.", these are not the outcome of salvation. Rather these are the preparatory stages to make the spiritual journey. Once we can come out of the bondage of 'shodoripus' we are ready to make the journey in the spiritual path to that great unkown which is very close yet so far. It needs great effort and determination to conquer these inner ills and if one can achieve this in a life time that itself is a great job and then surely he becomes closer to God. |
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didibhai
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/26/05 at 03:05:11 » |
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I think you just said what I meant to say, Ravi. i don't think living such a materialistic life one can really look away from it.
Attaining some goodness in this age of 'kali' is probably more than we can imagine. Ethics & morality comes from how one discipline themself. |
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synclaire_beauty
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/27/05 at 01:35:47 » |
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1122146646&start=30#38 date=08/26/05 at 03:05:11]
I think you just said what I meant to say, Ravi. [/quote]
Didibhai writes what she doesnt mean and means what she doesnt writes ;D
By Gods grace those vexed post of yours regarding my BEAUTY just vanished (sob i thakur er ichche :)
Hope you didnt mean what you said over there too :D
There is a saying:
Man makes holy what he believes as
he makes beautiful what he loves....
-Ernest Renan French Philosopher and Historian, 1823-1892
Start loving me didibhai ....
and see for yourself if this great philosopher was correct while making this quote. ;D |
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brishti
indianfriend
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/27/05 at 03:52:30 » |
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I dont think, SB, that is was Didibhai who talked about your beauty, I think she was Mon_amar. So whatever you have to say, tell mon_amar.
Keep your kool dear! :) |
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synclaire_beauty
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Re: What is God for you?
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Hi Brishti,
Thanks for reminding me about mon_amar's comment, she had no offensive intuition by telling me so.
but didibhai knows what I mean, may be many of you were lucky enough for not having a glimpse of that post due to some technical problem with the sil.com server
Didibhai Am I right??? ;D
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ravi
ravi
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Re: What is God for you?
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I have confusion regarding two bristis ;) ;D |
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REC_95
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/29/05 at 11:17:52 » |
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kitare Ravi bhala aaso ni!
God neea oto confusison kene!
aami dilli chari deear!
aamar aager i.d khuler naa!!
Bhogobaan jaane kita oise!
Oboishho besi guta guti korsi na, nuton i.d banailaaisi!
dutta |
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TaarCheera
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/29/05 at 18:54:04 » |
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When I sit on dinning table, that dish is God to me, when I go to bed that sleep is God to me and lastly at the end of every month that salary is God to me.
:)TC |
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REC_95
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/29/05 at 19:29:24 » |
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work is worship!
God gets angry!!!!!!! when
office-o kajo phaki deele!!
Aandu kotha koile!!!
Porer somaluchona korle!!!
bhaaa bondhu hokol kaajo mon deeo |
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brishti
indianfriend
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Re: What is God for you?
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08/30/05 at 01:09:16 » |
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One day I decided to quit...
I quit my job, my relationship, my spirituality...
I wanted to quit my life.
I went to the woods to have one last talk with God.
"God", I said. "Can you give me one good reason not to quit?"
His answer surprised me...
"Look around", He said. "Do you see the fern and the bamboo?"
"Yes", I replied.
"When I planted the fern and the bamboo seeds, I took very good care of them. I gave them light. I gave them
water.
The fern quickly grew from the earth. Its brilliant green covered the floor. Yet nothing came from the bamboo
seed.
But I did not quit on the bamboo. In the second year the Fern grew more vibrant and plentiful.
And again, nothing came from the bamboo seed. But I did not quit on the bamboo. He said.
"In year three there was still nothing from the bamboo seed. But I would not quit.
In year four, again, there was nothing from the bamboo see.
I would not quit." He said.
"Then in the fifth year a tiny sprout emerged from the earth.
Compared to the fern it was seemingly small and insignificant...But just 6 months later the bamboo rose to over
100 feet tall.
It had spent the five years growing roots. Those roots made it strong and gave it what it needed to survive.
I would not give any of my creations a challenge it could not handle."
He said to me. "Did you know, my child, that all this time you have been struggling, you have actually been
growing roots?"
"I would not quit on the bamboo. I will never quit on you."
"Don't compare yourself to others." He said. "The bamboo had a different purpose than the fern. Yet they both make
the forest beautiful."
"Your time will come", God said to me. "You will rise high"
"How high should I rise?" I asked.
"How high will the bamboo rise?" He asked in return.
"As high as it can?" I questioned.
"Yes." He said, "Give me glory by rising as high as you can."
I left the forest and bring back this story.
I hope these words can help you see that God will never give up on you.
Never Give up!! :D
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