Silchar hijacked by Bangladeshi REFUGEES

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Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/22/01 at 06:51:38 »

>:( 50 or lets say some more years back Silchar was not the same silchar. Then we were the original silcharis consisting of Muslims and Original Nath & dumshara Hindus. There was much peace and brotherhood between us. We respected each others feelings and religion. But now the case is different. From Years Bangladeshi Hindu refugees have been pouring in silchar and settling here with no obstruction from naths or muslims(who infact didnt minded, not considering the long term consequences we are facing now). They bought lands and settled among us and in crucial locations (consisting of the town now - link road and many others are heavens of refugees). Every year there are more pouring-in in search of job and better living conditions. Hence changing the Demography of Barak Valley. This people have no affinity for assam - our very own state. They have deeper respect for Calcutta and love to speak kelu(even if they cannot). This bangladeshis from the western side bengal pretend to be more superior and dispise the original hindus here and the funniest and most ironic matter is that they call our Muslims brothers as "bangals" (whereas they are themselves called so in West Bengal). They worship heros like tagore, bose and likes while our own local ones(such as Moinul haque Chowdury) are neglected (look at most of the street names nowadays).
This "Refugees" have cancerized our society and taking away our right. Go to most of the offices today - most of the low level staffs are this "Refugees". Is there a single Nath or Muslim posted? We DONT EVEN GET THE OPPORTUNITY.

WELL, We have forgiven them so long but now they have gone to their extremes. >:( This "Refugees" are bring in the Feeling of communalism within us. To divide us and watch the Fun. Bring elements like VHP and RSS which never ever existed in Assam before. We have seen places(like UP,Gujarat etc) where this communal elements(who are themselves Refugees either from Pakistan or bangladesh) have destroyed the harmony and brotherhood among native Muslims and Hindus.
This "Refugees" Should have been kicked out of Silchar long back but our ancestors have made the mistake by taking them as friends. We should now Accomplish The TASK UNDONE, viz. Kick this "REFUGEES" back To thier burrows in Bangladesh!! >:(

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nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/22/01 at 19:14:30 »

silchari blood i support your cause but i think we can spread the message through love and understanding. its high time for the refugees to forget their past and abusing muslims.

Himadri
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/22/01 at 23:28:57 »

Well, well....Silchar was a place of great communal harmony, was it ? and Hindu refugees after partition changed it overnight..huh ? well too bad, but that's how it has to be.If that's not palatable for you then I guess its too late because you should have told your forefathers to stop that rat Jinnah from dividing the country.Who forced it unto the Hindus to flee East Pakistan/Bangladesh ? Ask yourself that question before going on such dumb and half-witted rants in public message boards.

silchari_blood
silchari_blood

Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/23/01 at 00:13:17 »

so himadri wants to teach us that there wasnt any communal harmony in silchar in old days. God, so we are born communal? How could this bangladeshi refugees know about our brotherhood when they werent there at that time to witness it. And if i m not mistaken, i mentioned 50 years - well it is not overnight, is it? U said in this message board it self that ur ancestors r from bangladesh, so i m not amazed at ur respone. So, u r taking the revenge for the atrocities ur ancestors faced in that bangladesh :'(.
Sorry but sad to say, india is secular by law. And more than 20% of indians r muslims.(worlds 2nd largest) This muslims r much better then ur bangladeshi brothers and taliban. They have accepted u in silchar and r living happy with u creatures.
Dont compare Taliban with Everything. They are a group of barbaric people who have nothing to do with the modern world and multi-ethnic society (somewhat similar to u bangladeshi refugees, as they r also pakistani refugees to afganistan). U say not to play the religion card -what r u doing out here? Talking about a Hindurastra and ramrajya. Muslims and british have taught us civilization and unity.(for more than 300+200=500 years). Before that there was no such thing as the hindu india u r talking about. And now this creatures r trying to change history and show that this pakistani and bangladeshi HINDU refugees r Indian !! HA !! Please don't advocate ur nonsense.

And one more thing - I was expecting ur reply.. it is a harsh reality for u. But u r destined to face IT!

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anindita
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/23/01 at 05:52:48 »

hi blood :)
wanna become osama of silchar?? silchar is a very ordinary town in a ordinary country like india .in a ordinary planet earth and so on. our life is too short to fight over such ordinary thing .so instead of cleaning silchar lets clean our soul .

i love silchar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/23/01 at 06:07:58 »

hey silchar_blood
u have taken the right cause "Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES".
yeah ur right katti blood is different from bangladeshi refugees
for eg u see silchar town is very dirty compared to other town in northeast since municipality of silchar is full of this refugees who have no sense of hygiene and are damn corrupted.
refugees like himadri are not discussing about such issues,unemployment,or why no development is going on or whats wrong with silchar rec (strikes now and then ) no students from other states want to study here even when this people r getting good branches.but about himadri is bleeding for bangladesh

Himadri
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/23/01 at 11:06:20 »

Let me rephrase what I said earlier, lest half-witted souls like you Silchari_blood, don't get it........my ancestors were from "undivided India" and not Pakistan/Bangladesh which didn't exist back then, and that's the case with most Silcharites who you are referring to as "refugees".Capisch ? And yes, maybe some more Hindus migrated after that as well, and they are as much Indians as anybody else because they have been driven out under religious coercion from their homeland(called Islamic states), and India being the only place they could live as decent citizens, that's where they go and belong.We don't have to change anything to show anybody who is Indian and who is not.All your lame arguments are doing is giving away your blockheadedness...

And what did you say about civilization being taught to us by Muslims and British ? I don't want to even argue a numbskulled comment as that....but that shows what you are, someone who couldn't stop sucking up to those colonial masters and barbaric invaders.Your identity depends on that, doesn't it ? How about this.....Indians used to study astronomy and Mathematics long before your role-models even started wearing clothes.Civilization is not about looting ,pillaging and murdering in the name of religion my friend, if you go check your dictionary or whatever medieval texts you might be reading.That shows why your ilk are as much Taliban as anybody else, because that's where those potheads also get their civilization from...if such medieval Islamic despots like Mahmud Ghazni, Timur Lane, Babur and Aurangzeb are your beacons of civilization then may God have mercy on you.The secularism that you are boasting about, is not something that was thought of by these role-models of yours, alright ? "Sarva-Dharma sambhav" is as much an essential tenet of Hinduism, as "Haj" is in Islam and this was not taught to us by any barbarian called Babur or Mahmud Ghaznavi !

Get a life pal, and look around you...then maybe you can reform yourself a bit to blend in with this modern world.Good luck.

silchari_blood
silchari_blood

Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/24/01 at 20:49:32 »

OK... u r getting everything messed up... First U r not a bangladeshi.. i said that too. U were born here.. right?
Next.. what do u call someone who crossed over to india after 1947.. Refugee.. right?? NOW HERE"S THE TROUBLE - A MUSLIM CROSSES OVER THEN HE IS A REFUGEE(ILLEGAL_THE TERM U USE); BUT IF A HINDU CROSSES OVER HE IS " A LONG LOST BROTHER". This is ur secularism??
One thing more - If Mugals itch ur eyes so much then why does india Suck the Revenue they r getting from all the Monuments like Taj mahal, qutubminar . and What About RED FORT. The PM of india loves to Blast his voice in INDEPENDENCE DAY from a "INVADER"S FORT". OK>> That Previous problem again... if the so-called invaders were HINDUS then U ould have already made the GODS. ut U r too "SECULAR" to accept A muslim Ruler.
i have a suggestion for u - mail the PM (he is of ur type) to stop shouting from that Invader's fort and also Tell his "SECULAR FORCES -RSS,VHP" to tear down this monuments as they have done to the "Invader's(Babar) masjid". Clean ur goody goody "Secular" INDIA.. which only resides in ur Mind.. The Rest of the indians dont think like that and thats what I WANNA CLEAN. 8)

Krity
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«on: 12/25/01 at 02:46:02 »

Folks, Its one of the most disgusting articles I have ever read. I am not sure what was the idea behind such illogical ranting. Here Mr. Silchari_blood is dividing the populace into "Refugees" and "Natives" and accusing the "Refugees" as being the root cause of all evils in Silchar - Unemployement, Communal Riots, Overcrowding or rather settling down in crucial (?) locations like link road.. crucial !!! excuse me what are we talking here. Few years back it was farm land. And btw these so called "Refugees" have helped the economy of Silchar trmendously.

And as far as other evils are concerned let me say this, a few years back there was a world Muslim conference in Haflong. Did we need this ? Have we ever heard of a conference for encouraging businesses / improving life style / Education etc. Why not think progressive ?

Also if everyone starts think that only the locals can stay at any place..imagine all Maharastrians in Mumbai, all Tamils in Chennai, all punjabis in Punjab etc... What do we have ? INDIA ? definitely not. Mr. S_B being so much civilized (his english is pretty good and Englishmen are civilized by his own admission) its high time you stop dividing people on whimsical lines.

FYI, I am an Indian from Silchar.

Cheers,

Krity

nitaipil
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/25/01 at 03:14:11 »

hello blood could you please tell me about your garnd father and his grandfatrher. ?

silchari_blood
silchari_blood

Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/25/01 at 04:05:28 »

What does a "WORLD MUSLIM CONFERENCE" has to do with People crossing over the border and with development? Its A religious matter and to be dealt by the people of that community. And Assam doesn't just platforms for MUSLIM conferences.
And as far as the Matter of "DISGUST" is concerned, I thought this was a Free for all and Non-compulsive Board. U aren't forced to Digest what ever someone writes. And u r equally free to start a "EQUALLY DISGUSTING" Topic. Every topic is Disgusting for someone or the other. ;)

someone wrote:
"..imagine all Maharastrians in Mumbai, all Tamils in Chennai, all punjabis in Punjab etc... What do we have ? INDIA ?" Well Here i m not talking about tamils or Mizos. I m rather talking about REAL "Refugees" who dont even belong to our Nation. Kindly see the dictonary meaning of Refugee.
Lastly, If MY raising this topic Divides people then It must surely be dividing The Native Indian from Those "Refugees".

Think Again.

i love silchar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/25/01 at 04:56:45 »

hi niti ur question is very very............. :D :D :D :D :D
uska baap dada ke saath tera kya kaam hai??? ??? ??? ??? ???
hum sooch ke parasaan ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :) tu :-X :-X :-X
re. nayi toh logo ko pata chal jayega ki tere dimug me gass chadi hai. abhi tu :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( mat
mera salah hai ki tu blockpanti ;D chod de.
aur akalmandi ki baate kar.
8) 8) 8) 8)
in simple terms bore mat kar >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
tere liya :-/

nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/25/01 at 05:03:12 »

kriti hi
how could u compare maratis and sikhs with refugees

Krity
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«on: 12/25/01 at 05:41:05 »

[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=0#10 date=12/25/01 at 04:05:28]
What does a "WORLD MUSLIM CONFERENCE" has to do with People crossing over the border and with development? Its A religious matter and to be dealt by the people of that community. And Assam doesn't just platforms for MUSLIM conferences.
POINT TAKEN. BUT DID U NOT MENTION RSS/VHP ? I GUESS THESE CONFERENCES ARE NOT COMMUNAL AS PER U..VERY CONVENIENT I MUST SAY.

And as far as the Matter of "DISGUST" is concerned, I thought this was a Free for all and Non-compulsive Board. U aren't forced to Digest what ever someone writes. And u r equally free to start a "EQUALLY DISGUSTING" Topic. Every topic is Disgusting for someone or the other. ;)

ATLEAST U ACCEPT THAT IT IS DISGUSTING.

someone wrote:
"..imagine all Maharastrians in Mumbai, all Tamils in Chennai, all punjabis in Punjab etc... What do we have ? INDIA ?" Well Here i m not talking about tamils or Mizos. I m rather talking about REAL "Refugees" who dont even belong to our Nation. Kindly see the dictonary meaning of Refugee.
Lastly, If MY raising this topic Divides people then It must surely be dividing The Native Indian from Those "Refugees".

I MENTIONED PUNJABIS 'COZ THEY TOO WENT THRU A SIMILAR SITUATION. HOW COME NO ONE CONSIDERS THEM REFUGEES ?
AND TALKING ABOUT REFUGEE, MAY I REMIND U THAT B'DESH WAS ONCE PART OF INDIA (OR MORE CORRECTLY PARTLY BENGAL AND PARTLY ASSAM). SO HOW DO YOU DIVIDE PEOPLE OF THE SAME AREA -- SURELY NOT BECOS SOME WERE UNLUCKY TO BE PROSECUTED ON RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL GROUNDS AND OTHERS NOT ?

Think Again.
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nlaskar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/25/01 at 05:49:14 »

I just came across this topic and found it worth replying. If i am not mistaken, most of you are youths? But you are not aware of the true facts and history of silchar. Being a senior citizen of our little town, I want put some light to the topic:
At the time of indepence, the population of silchar town was 50-50 (hindu-muslim). It was quite like the way silchariblood had pointed out in the very beginning. Our Businesses florished side by side ( in hospital road, premtola, central road). But all this changed slowly. Our East bengali brothers came pouring in. They got no resistance from our side. Eventually there were riots and looting in the town. I myself have witnessed all this shop burnings and killings. The then muslim population moved away to sub-urban areas where they still live.

But you youths better forget all this and help making silchar a better place to live in harmony.

we also used to debate over it but it was fruitless.

nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/25/01 at 20:02:45 »

hi kriti
u see punjabis came during independence time and so thats it .they r not pouring in india every year in thousands .

Himadri
hrc

Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/25/01 at 21:44:26 »

[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=0#7 date=12/24/01 at 20:49:32]
NOW HERE"S THE TROUBLE - A MUSLIM CROSSES OVER THEN HE IS A REFUGEE(ILLEGAL_THE TERM U USE); BUT IF A HINDU CROSSES OVER HE IS " A LONG LOST BROTHER". This is ur secularism??
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Well Silchari_blood, here's why Hindu immigration is different from Muslim immigration.....because Muslims immigrating into India illegally may lead to a situation one day when the demographic profile of say North East is permanently altered and we all know from history what that leads to, don't we ? Another partition of the country and secession based on religion ! That's something which is absolutely unacceptable for Indians of all hues and that's why we have to be cautious about it.History has taught us this very unpalatable and bitter truth but that's what it is, plain and simple.....we just cannot let that happen all over again.Hindus immigrating from Bangladesh are political asylum seekers in a way because they face persecution in Bangladesh.There right to be in India and be allowed to be decent citizens is paramount to the ethos that India stands for and something of a responsibility that was thurst upon this nation on that fateful day when this country was divided on religious lines.India cannot shirk from that responsibility, not even for once !

That is why Hindu and Muslim immigration is different, alright ?

Now coming to your comment about Mughal legacy...yes, Taj Mahal and Red Fort are part of our history, and so are a lot of other things which the Mughals gave us but that does not mean that Babur was not an invader.He did not even live in Delhi.He used to run the country from Kabul.It is the biggest quality of Indians that all these invaders also could be assimilitated within its own.Later Mughals tried to assimilate themsleves into the mainstream by being Indians and not some Turko-Mongol rulers, but that does not apply to most of them including earlier ones like Mahmud Ghaznavi or Timur Lane.The attempts to stamp out older history and culture of this nation by all the rulers of the Islamic period is something that has culminated into those bull-headed history textbooks of Pakistani schools.Check those out and you would know what I am talking about.We do not deny our history or the past legacy and assimilate the good and try to reject the bad.Aurangzeb tried his best but failed to religiously subjugate the local pupulace.Mahmud Gahzni invaded India seventeen times and destroyed the Somnath temple all of those seventeen times.Examples like that galore through that stage of Indian history.These are the real legacies of that period although their are the good ones like the Taj Mahal et al. as well.If someone takes pride in those bad things, then its time that we consider those people as traitors.Its in our best traditions to take the good, and reject the bad things like the extreme iconoclasm of the Islamists.That has wreaked havoc in the past and is doing the same in the present day as well.There is no way that the whole of the Islamic period can be called India's heritage.Most of its parts were bad dreams and its time we identified those as such for posterity.

silchari_blood
silchari_blood

As far as The economy is concerned.
«on: 12/25/01 at 23:45:28 »

Krity wrote:
"Here Mr. Silchari_blood is dividing the populace into "Refugees" and "Natives" and accusing the "Refugees" as being the root cause of all evils in Silchar - Unemployement, Communal Riots, Overcrowding or rather settling down in crucial (?) locations like link road.. crucial !!! excuse me what are we talking here. Few years back it was farm land. And btw these so called "Refugees" have helped the economy of Silchar trmendously."

It seems u have not attended ur Ecomonics classes regularly or else u wont have give such layman statements. Just some colorful, small roadside shops dont imply that the economy is healthy. Let me tell u :

The main "AIM" of economics is to help in "upgrading the living conditions of the people" and to ensure a "healthy market competition". What do we have in Silchar? - neither of it. The MPC (marginal propensity to consume) or the "purchasing capacity" of the public is much below normal compared to other cities of Noth-east (now pliz dont refer hailakandi or karimganj, this are villages). Just look at Aizawl or Shillong or even Dibrugarh.
Next, the larger chunk of the upper segment market is controlled by Marwaris (well i m not against that, atleast they r helping in providing employment).
Now how do u say that these Refugees are helping the economy? Firstly , they r increasing the POPULATION of the city. This in turn causes unemployment which fuels poverty and CRIME (refugees being cause of evil??). Secondly, with more refugees in the market (i m refering to the economic not the physical market) there is more demand for goods (specially giffen goods). This forced the suppliers to invest more on inferior good (take the case of the recent Poisoned channas). Thus leading to less supply of upper segment items (there is not a single decent mall in Silchar, i m not advocating despot capitalism, but that is what economics aims for). Take the case of Rikshaws. Due to less government regulation in the number of rikshaws, more and more of them r seen in the town. Thus the demand for rikshaws decreases hence their rate. People start prefering rikshaws. Eventually the other means of transports (auto, buses, taxis) also cut down their prices. This is harmful for the suppliers. They have less capital and so they invest all the less. This is a vicious cycle. AND IN NO WAY DOES IT HELPS THE ECONOMY, LEAVE ALONE "TREMENDOUSLY"!!.

Pliz dont compare punjabis with bengali refugees. They r a boost for the economy in real terms. Many of the indians abroad (sources of foreign income) are punjabis.

silchari_blood
silchari_blood

Learn to live With MUSLIMS - this is INDIA
«on: 12/26/01 at 05:40:27 »

Dear Boy.. :-[ u have given more then enough explanation needed to prove ur patroitism and to enlighten us. Now some thing to be made clear:

U dont want another partition..right? U call MUSLIM TRAITORS : what were u and ur REFUGEE brothers?? Just Traitors to bangladesh. Till now we were civil. But let me ask u one thing - do u think that we indains are so foolish to agree with ur Arabian Night stories of horror and Sufferings in bangladesh? What ever may it be. That was ur nation and ur government (don't say that u didnt had the right to vote). The people who were "PROSECUTING" u were ur countryman. Tommorow if there is a civil war in india... i don't think a single muslim will cross over to bangladesh or pakistan and Cry over there for sympathy. Those things are beyond our ethos.
One more thing - I think it is time u learn to live with the Muslims - whether u like them or not. India is in Asia, not in America or Europe (got it). If Mahmud or Babur still Haunt u in ur Dreams then u better go to mars. There won't be any muslims over there (I am not suggesting u to go to moon since u doubt the Crescent too... isnt it??). U people need some rest. The present world is too civilised for u it seems. U r some what like the Taliban and RSS - They too can't tolerate other religions. Is this what ur Dad had taught u?? And is this what Bangladesh had taught u??

U people must have done something over there else why would they have bashed u for no reasons? - there is no fire without smoke.

YES I DON'T ADVOCATE WHATEVER BARBARIC ACT WAS DONE ON U. BUT U R ALSO AT FAULT. ITS TOO MUCH A COWARDICE TO LEAVE ONES NATION - LAND, PROPERTIES, MEMORIES JUST LIKE THAT. IF U HAD RESISTED THEM, THEN HOW LONG WOULD THEY HAVE CONTINUED WITH THEIR ATROCITIES. This just shows ur disloyality and nothing else. How CAN WE EXPECT U TO BE LOYAL HERE?
If u r prosecuted here then tommorow u may run away to BURMA but we won't. WE R NOT "REFUGEES".

Krity
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Re: Silchar hijacked by
«on: 12/26/01 at 07:14:24 »

Mr S_B,

I am a layman but this much I understand that the buying power of the people in Silchar is quite high. Also it is one of the busiest markets in NE where a large volume of transactions is carried out daily ( and the so called "small colorful shops" have daily turnovers running in lacs. You can check this out in Fatak Bazaar urself, if you care). This money is pumped in back to the same place as expenditures etc. Whether this conforms to the dictionary meaning of economy I don't know. And btw why compare silchar with Shillong / Aizawl.. These my dear friend are state capitals and infact Shg was the capital of undivided Assam. However even in Shillong the "money" is NOT controlled by the locals. Also these states recv. a lot of sops from the Centre but that is different story altogether.

You also wrote :
"Take the case of Rikshaws. Due to less government regulation in the number of rikshaws, more and more of them r seen in the town. Thus the demand for rikshaws decreases hence their rate. People start prefering rikshaws. Eventually the other means of transports (auto, buses, taxis) also cut down their prices. This is harmful for the suppliers. They have less capital and so they invest all the less."

The example you gave is in direct contradiction to one of you earlier statements "AIM of economics is to ensure healthy market competition".

Also even a dullhead (as per economics goes) like me can understand the for a good economy the cost of transport MUST be less. Cheap Transport or in other words Communication is one of the vital cogs of a sound Economy. Your ideas are fantastic !!!

And btw, just because Punjabis bring in Foreign Exchange ( which India definitely needs and are a boost to our economy ) is it reason enough that they should not be considered refugees ? Could you pls. let me know in which dictionary "refugee" refers only to poor people ?

Cheers,

silchari_blood
silchari_blood

Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/26/01 at 10:31:16 »

Krity (after brushing up his Economics) :-/ writes:

"Also even a dullhead (as per economics goes) like me can understand the for a good economy the cost of transport MUST be less. Cheap Transport or in other words Communication is one of the vital cogs of a sound Economy. Your ideas are fantastic !!! "

U accepted urself as "dullhead" ... so i m not commenting again.
Look: it seems a full-wallet for u means a Good economy. But what about the rhikshaw, auto drivers? I dont say that u should pay them without travelling; but if u pay them less then at the end of the day they go home with lesser amount of money (their purchasing power decreases)- next day their wives buy less veg from the market - less sale for the veg sellers - so they dont have enough money to buy more veg for ur kitchen - less veg means more demand for vegs and ULTIMATELY U ARE THE ONE WHO PAYS MORE FOR BUYING VEGS. So, the money u dont pay to the rhikshaw puller is paid by u to the veg seller. Ur money is spent after all and economy does not benefits even. Even if u dont understand this simple example then u r a GONE CASE. :-/

"Fatak bazaar is earning in lakhs and they r pouring back the profit in the market". So where is the physical output? If u have visited fatak bazaar u wont have said so. The bazaar is in a complete mess and there is job generation only for the bihari motias. The Standard of living is same (infact worser) then as it was 20 years back.

U say that buying power of silcharis is high. Can u show me a single upper segment market which exists (leave alone florishes) in silchar. By purchasing power(MPC), i didn't meant the power to purchase atta, maida, alu, duplicate jeans, stinking perfumes. There isn't a decent Place to chill out or even walk in the town. Now pliz don't say now that i am over expecting from silchar. I love silchar as it is. But u said that the economy is great here so i had to mention all this.

Ok.. aizawl and shillong are centre's PET. What about Didrugarh?? U just seem to miss points too much.Take the case of punjabis... U said that punjabis were also refugees. But along with punjabis u mentioned maratis and tamils too. But later u missed them. What do u tell?? ???

silchari_blood
silchari_blood

BYE FOLKS
«on: 12/26/01 at 10:38:47 »

:DOk folks.. it was a great time talkin with u all... specially Himadri.. ur english was pretty good ;). Its time i have to leave. I m going abroad for few months but i will try to keep mailin my opinion.. i dont promise to be regular.

If I said anything which hurted anyones feeling then pliz pliz dont mind... :) It was quite a healthy debate... hey why am i saying "was".. i would love to talk more with u. and over more topics. Common HRC.. come up with more topics.. we may turn up with same ideology. 8)

And YEAH :

A very HAPPY NEW YEAR TOO U ALL.... AND CONTINUE THE ADDA.... After all we all love and live with SILCHAR ;D

Himadri
hrc

Re: Learn to live With MUSLIMS - this is INDIA
«on: 12/26/01 at 12:18:41 »

Sure pal, no hard feelings ! 'Twas just an argument.Had a good time...
just that this argument was digressing into an illogical rant and I did not have any intention of continuing it, but just to clarify one thing.....I did not in any of my posts say that Muslims were traitors or say that I did not like Muslims.Its not good to jump to conclusions.And as for those stories of Hindus being persecuted in Bangladesh recently....they did not appear first in Indian press but were reported in the Bangladeshi press by organizations run by Muslims.

Have a Happy New year.

Cheers !

beezee
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Re: Silchar hijacked by
«on: 12/26/01 at 20:02:55 »

I have been reading this debate in the net, being far away from Silchar in a different country. Crossing border line in search of economic freedom is not a new thing. Here in US the mexicans constantly the cross border to find new life. Many are caught and sent back home, and they again try. There is no immediate way to solve this problem. It is a good sign that our economy better than many other countries. I have seen poverty in east european countries. India is doing much better. To solve this, border has to be sealed, and this is impossible. We have to bear this because we are doing better.
BZ

Krity
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Re: Silchar hijacked by
«on: 12/26/01 at 23:09:43 »

S_B,

You tend to interpret a lot of things in a manner convenient 2 u. I never said that the economy of Silchar is "GREAT". All I said was that the so called refugees helped the economy tremendously.

I donot know where u are goin but incase its USA then maybe u will appreciate my comments regarding "cheap transport" / market competition etc. Its the basic things that determine the economy and not fancy things like "places to chill out" etc.

I could go on & on but that would be diverting from the original topic of the dividing the people. Being an educated man, the least you could do is unite the people and not further divide. We already have quite a few on religion/caste/poltical etc. The need of the hour is working as ONE & as a "team". Also why can we not follow the simple rule of "Live & let Live". Is is asking for too much from the "EDUCATED YOUTHS" ?

Wish u a pleasant trip and a Happy New Year.

Cheers,

nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 12/27/01 at 00:33:27 »

Hi folks... i was not much into this topic.. but really enjoyed the debate.. :D. The best part is that non of u had ill feeling towards each other.
"Bon Voyage" to Silchari_blood. one question for u SB
I m wondering ??? whether u r going back for higher studies and gonna come back here again to serve silchar or u r also seeking Greener pastures also?? ;) Kiddin Yaar

Anyway HAPPY NEW YEAR TO U ALL BONDUS.

Indian
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/10/02 at 07:16:51 »

Guys like Silchari_blood(if a Hindu) should be nuked out of existence along with his Muslim bhais.

m_factor
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/15/02 at 06:54:58 »

so indian... has a list of advices everyhere... guys like tis live in ozy ouses... their parents pet... seen a speck of thir town... and run ound ith drunken ideas... tis group of egg headed bunch of political ictims sould be sen o asylum.. they need real treatment ... :-/

Asim Burman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/21/02 at 04:25:53 »

One thing please remember that Silchar was under the control be Kachari King in Kashpur.And People like the forefathers of silchari_blood were imported by the Kachari King for attending their
cows.They were mainly Rakhals imported from Sylhet.So these(Silchari_blood) people are not the original people
from silchar,but Chakors or labourers imported for serving the king of silchar.
So as far as the status of silchari blood is concerned ,he may be a software engineer now,
but actually fit for writing software related to Cow Maintenance.And Bihar may be the right palce for
him in future .
As far as the partition refugees are concerned they were mostly businessman,teachers ,professionals
etc who are not comparable to the Chakors or Rakhals like Silchari_blood.

ojeen
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/21/02 at 05:38:10 »

O re ba Asim,
Tumar rajai (Kachari King) gaamsa ogu finto naa maathat dito ektu koibai ni? ;D

silchari_blood's friend
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/21/02 at 05:50:29 »

Though I am also a old resident like silchari_blood ,but I recognize what asim burman says is 100 percent correct.so ojjen you need not be so angry,you should try to understand the facts.what is wrong if our forefathers are rakhals.

nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/21/02 at 06:25:15 »

hey asim
so in 21st century u believe in caste system huh.
u don't believe i dignity of labour if his great great pa's r rakhal as concluded by u ,then he should be rakhal programmer .u have got great sense of humour but not logic
this things only shows ur frustrations of being a refugee and claims of being some hi-fi in bangladesh before .but pity u have to argue with rakhals now.

M-factor
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/21/02 at 06:30:46 »

Hey asim... u sound like a brahmin pot hole, self style zamindar.... so how did u guessed that the SB... was a rakhal... and r u the kings desendent... all sounds too prehistoric ... the debate was bout post independence probs and trauma... and no stupid conclusions r invited... pliz.

and how did u ever imagine that a rakhal(if at all)... can be less human than all those stinkin... kings. There was only one king... and rest of the world is RAKHAL...is it?? so for u theres jus two species... eh??

Asim's Supporter
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/21/02 at 06:50:40 »

so at last someone has come out with some facts and exposed silchari_blood and his brothers as revealed by one of silchari_blood's friend himself.so cool down and close this issue.
no use of any furthur justification with blood.Now that silchari_blood is as good as water mixed with red colour.

Krity
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Re: Silchar hijacked by
«on: 01/21/02 at 12:43:06 »

Asim,

You raised a very important point that the so called "natives" themselves are not the original inhabitants of Silchar..I guess its true not only for Silchar but everywhere. So it is high time people ( and educated if I may add ) stop dividing their fellow brethen on such flimsy grounds.

BTW you donot have to hit "below the belt" to put your views across. Hope you take this in the right spirit.

Cheers

Asim Burman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/22/02 at 03:49:41 »

I have hit below his belt to drive home the right point,because
he was hitting below the belt of other people who doesnt have any fault of
theirs,but were the victims of partition.

Nononsense
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/25/02 at 23:40:27 »

Refugees R refugees and musims r muslims... and both r stayin in silchar... now all this talks r not gonna mke them leave thier places... ok. If guys like asim and indian could waste the youth in productive purposes... them silchar wlud have been a better place... i swear. Ur Attitude is really next to nonsense... please get better.

nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/26/02 at 07:53:44 »

hi nononsense :)
yeah i agree with u that all this boys are wasting their time and money (surfing) discussing something which has no apparent solution. as far as i know silchar is such a peaceful place with no visible tension . but boys r trying to sound silchar like kasmir or palestine.
well u boys can't u come up with some thing worth to be discussed instead of abusing ,cursing and discovering new histories.

i love silchar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/26/02 at 08:05:14 »

::) 8) 8)This is for everyone who r dying over this topic :-[ :-[
" Carva (SB) chalta hey... kutte (rest of u) bhokte(bark) hey.. ;D ;D

Another Silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 01/29/02 at 04:22:06 »

Silchari_blood,m_factorial etc and others,stop all this bullshit topics on this room and better put up non-controversial topics

m_factor
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 02/02/02 at 08:20:56 »

So u mean that this topic is controversial and hurts ur ego and all that... but then wats life with no controversy.. do u want to discuss ... pizza recipes out here ...?? :o
Or topics like why some gals out there dont speak in some languages??... face the world as it is boy...
We should in fact cheer the SB for startin such a bold topic... i jus supported him coz none out here seem to come to his side... though wat he was sayin was (we everybody know)... fairly TRUE.
well ::) "another sil" we r waitin for u to start some politically sweetened topic... music to everyones ears... and delight to everyones taste... but then rem one thing... that wont get u as famous or(infamous whatever) as this guys eho have guts... anyways... people have there own taste... and this site dont cost us to Xpress our feelings and all that.
To put together " CONTROVERSY UPROOTS EVIL" ;)

Another Silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 02/04/02 at 00:45:34 »

Well what about Israel.What is your idea about ths country.
I believe it is avery strong country which has defeated its three big neighbours in just seven days.They are the most intelligent people in this world.
And fortunately they are getting very close to India.And they recognise that Indians are as Intelligent as them.So doy ou like them or hate them.

akbar_ki_aulad
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 02/05/02 at 08:11:10 »

yea... isrealites r big big nation... go lick their ass.... then the give u some alms for some refugee camp in premtola.

Akbar ka Dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 02/05/02 at 23:31:38 »

Hi Akbar,
why so angry when the name Israel comes to your ear.
Be ashamed and keep quiet like you did when India defeated Pakistan(Akbar's Legacy) and captured 1 lakh soilders in 1971.
Its a different question we left them because of our tolerance which you people dont have.
Cool Down man.

But you and your President(Mussharaf) who are admirers of Akbar do lick the ass of USA for alms and penis of Bin Laden for religion .you cannot deny that.
Meanwhile if you are so close to Akbar,then why dont you follow his language(Urdu) and script(farsi).
You are contradicting yourself by speaking Bengali(which is derived from Sanskrit) and English.
You should not have read English or written this language.
Because they have destroyed your ill-civilisation in India and handed power to the Hindus.

akbart_ki_aulad
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 02/09/02 at 23:50:51 »

Firstly i am a silchari(thats why i am speaking in this site). people seem to be drinking in daylight this days. Man mussarraf isnt out ruler(if you think so then its different). This dumbo feels that every muslim is a pakistani and every hindu an indian ( GOD :o even madrasra dont teach such things).
As far as isrealites and Americans are concerned(and that u have brought religion in the matter) then let me say one thing : Isrealites are jews and americans are christians. And we share the same Scriptures and prophets. The term we use is : "PEOPLE OF THE BOOK". and to be for frank, this people of the book are brothers and if they fight or have a dispute then it will be settled accordingly(brothers fight but not like enemies). So your daydream that isrealites are anti-muslim is a hoax. And that isrealites will come to help you in your anti-muslim campaign is strategy too good to be TRUE. Mind it, Isrealites and christians are all the more intolerable towards idol-worshipers. Stay with them a little longer and you will know that soon.

May god help you out!! :-/

akabr_ka_dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 02/11/02 at 15:13:11 »

Dear Akbar,English is a roman script and your script is based on Arabic which is no way related to English.
you didnt reply why you speak in Bengali which is derived from Sanskrit(Language of the IDOL Worshippers).I know why??
So Either convert back to your forefathers Hindu religion or adopt Islam fully by following Think Islam,Eat Islam,talk Islam,Write Islam policy.
You follow only 'Think Islam' by supporting Pakistan during India-Pakistan cricket match and supporting ISI.
I have lot of Jewish and American friends in my company and I know them well.Our common enemy is your UBL,understood.

akbar_ka _dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"
«on: 02/12/02 at 13:18:06 »

well akbar_ka_aulad read the topic above and below I have copied it from another section.

I have gone thru allthe above topics.
But what I know as far as Punjab and Bengal(these two states were divided during partition).In West Punjab(Pakistan) when the Hindu and Sikh Punjabis were killed ,those Hindu and Sikh Punjabis came to East Punjab(India) and retaliated
in the process sending all Punjabi Muslims to West Punjab(Pakistan) and talking over their property.So their problem was solved once and for all.
But in Bengal,it was only a one way flow.Because Bengali Hindus didnt have the guts like the Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs to retialiate and take over the property from Bengali Muslims.
They are also too much tolerant to remember anything.
That is why they took to leftist ideology in both Assam and Bengal instead of thinking to retaliate and get their due.
This fact is apreciable from outside but was not in long term interest of Bengali Hindus .
Even in Calcutta,for the first three days during the 1946 riots.Timid Bengali Hindus were massacred everywhere.
It was only when the Punjabi Refugees from West Punjab and the RSS activists came to Calcutta on the fourth day,that Hindus started retialiating ,but then Gandhiji immed came down to stop killing of his Muslim brothers to please Jinnah in vain.Otherwise Muslims started leaving for East Pakistan but was stopped by Gandhi who in a joint speech with Jinnah which he has given near CIT road urged them to stay back.
That stalemate exists today and so the problem.
Gandhi didnt care to come when the Hindus were massacred.
This fact was true all over India except Punjab where the people didnt care him.
The film HeyRam showed this fact to some extent.
The sad fact is no Muslim leader tried to protect the Hindus anywhere,leave alone any Hindu leaders as we can see them today also.
The news papers at that time(1947) condemned the Punjabis like anything but after all the Punjabis have to solve their problem and they did it themselves.

Reba
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