Silchar hijacked by Bangladeshi REFUGEES




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silchari_blood
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Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/22/01 at 06:51:38 »		   
>:( 50 or lets say some more years back Silchar was not the same silchar. Then we were the original silcharis consisting of Muslims and Original Nath & dumshara Hindus. There was much peace and brotherhood between us. We respected each others feelings and religion. But now the case is different. From Years Bangladeshi Hindu refugees have been pouring in silchar and settling here with no obstruction from naths or muslims(who infact didnt minded, not considering the long term consequences we are facing now). They bought lands and settled among us and in crucial locations (consisting of the town now - link road and many others are heavens of refugees). Every year there are more pouring-in in search of job and better living conditions. Hence changing the Demography of Barak Valley. This people have no affinity for assam - our very own state. They have deeper respect for Calcutta and love to speak kelu(even if they cannot). This bangladeshis from the western side bengal pretend to be more superior and dispise the original hindus here and the funniest and most ironic matter is that they call our Muslims brothers as "bangals" (whereas they are themselves called so in West Bengal). They worship heros like tagore, bose and likes while our own local ones(such as Moinul haque Chowdury) are neglected (look at most of the street names nowadays).
This "Refugees" have cancerized our society and taking away our right. Go to most of the offices today - most of the low level staffs are this "Refugees". Is there a single Nath or Muslim posted? We DONT EVEN GET THE OPPORTUNITY.
 
WELL, We have forgiven them so long but now they have gone to their extremes. >:( This "Refugees" are bring in the Feeling of communalism within us. To divide us and watch the Fun. Bring elements like VHP and RSS which never ever existed in Assam before. We have seen places(like UP,Gujarat etc) where this communal elements(who are themselves Refugees either from Pakistan or bangladesh) have destroyed the harmony and brotherhood among native Muslims and Hindus.
This "Refugees" Should have been kicked out of Silchar long back but our ancestors have made the mistake by taking them as friends. We should now Accomplish The TASK UNDONE, viz. Kick this "REFUGEES" back To thier burrows in Bangladesh!!  >:(      

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nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/22/01 at 19:14:30 »		   
silchari blood i support your cause but i think we can spread the message through love and understanding. its high time for the refugees to forget their past and abusing muslims.  
 
Himadri
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/22/01 at 23:28:57 »		   
Well, well....Silchar was a place of great communal harmony, was it ? and Hindu refugees after partition changed it overnight..huh ? well too bad, but that's how it has to be.If that's not palatable for you then I guess its too late because you should have told your forefathers to stop that rat Jinnah from dividing the country.Who forced it unto the Hindus to flee East Pakistan/Bangladesh ? Ask yourself that question before going on such dumb and half-witted rants in public message boards.  
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/23/01 at 00:13:17 »		   
 so himadri wants to teach us that there wasnt any communal harmony in silchar in old days. God, so we are born communal? How could this bangladeshi refugees know about our brotherhood when they werent there at that time to witness it. And if i m not mistaken, i mentioned 50 years - well it is not overnight, is it? U said in this message board it self that ur ancestors r from bangladesh, so i m not amazed at ur respone. So, u r taking the revenge for the atrocities ur ancestors faced in that bangladesh  :'(.
  Sorry but sad to say, india is secular by law. And more than 20% of indians r muslims.(worlds 2nd largest) This muslims r much better then ur bangladeshi brothers and taliban. They have accepted u in silchar and r living happy with u creatures.
  Dont compare Taliban with Everything. They are a group of barbaric people who have nothing to do with the modern world and multi-ethnic society (somewhat similar to u bangladeshi refugees, as they r also pakistani refugees to afganistan). U say not to play the religion card -what r u doing out here? Talking about a Hindurastra and ramrajya. Muslims and british have taught us civilization and unity.(for more than 300+200=500 years). Before that there was no such thing as the hindu india u r talking about. And now this creatures r trying to change history and show that this pakistani and bangladeshi HINDU refugees r Indian !! HA !! Please don't advocate ur nonsense.
 
And one more thing - I was expecting ur reply.. it is a harsh reality for u. But u r destined to face IT!

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anindita
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/23/01 at 05:52:48 »		   
hi blood :)
        wanna become osama of silchar?? silchar is a very ordinary town in a ordinary country like india .in a ordinary planet earth and so on. our life is too short to fight over such ordinary thing .so instead of cleaning silchar lets clean our soul .    
 
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/23/01 at 06:07:58 »		   
hey silchar_blood
                 u have taken the right cause "Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES".
                  yeah ur right katti blood is different from bangladeshi refugees
     for eg u see  silchar town is very dirty compared to other town in northeast since municipality of silchar is full of this refugees who have no sense of hygiene and are damn corrupted.
          refugees like himadri are not discussing about such issues,unemployment,or why no development is going on or whats wrong with silchar rec (strikes now and then ) no students from other states want to study here even when this people r getting good branches.but about himadri is bleeding for bangladesh  
 
Himadri
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/23/01 at 11:06:20 »		   
Let me rephrase what I said earlier, lest half-witted souls like you Silchari_blood, don't get it........my ancestors were from "undivided India" and not Pakistan/Bangladesh which didn't exist back then, and that's the case with most Silcharites who you are referring to as "refugees".Capisch ? And yes, maybe some more Hindus migrated after that as well, and they are as much Indians as anybody else because they have been driven out under religious coercion from their homeland(called Islamic states), and India being the only place they could live as decent citizens, that's where they go and belong.We don't have to change anything to show anybody who is Indian and who is not.All your lame arguments are doing is giving away your blockheadedness...

And what did you say about civilization being taught to us by Muslims and British ? I don't want to even argue a numbskulled comment as that....but that shows what you are, someone who couldn't stop sucking up to those colonial masters and barbaric invaders.Your identity depends on that, doesn't it ? How about this.....Indians used to study astronomy and Mathematics long before your role-models even started wearing clothes.Civilization is not about looting ,pillaging and murdering in the name of religion my friend, if you go check your dictionary or whatever medieval texts you might be reading.That shows why your ilk are as much Taliban as anybody else, because that's where those potheads also get their civilization from...if such medieval Islamic despots like Mahmud Ghazni, Timur Lane, Babur and Aurangzeb are your beacons of civilization then may God have mercy on you.The secularism that you are boasting about, is not something that was thought of by these role-models of yours, alright ? "Sarva-Dharma sambhav" is as much an  essential tenet of Hinduism, as "Haj" is in Islam and this was not taught to us by any barbarian called Babur or Mahmud Ghaznavi !

Get a life pal, and look around you...then maybe you can reform yourself a bit to blend in with this modern world.Good luck.
  
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/24/01 at 20:49:32 »		   
OK... u r getting everything messed up... First U r not a bangladeshi.. i said that too. U were born here.. right?
 Next.. what do u call someone who crossed over to india after 1947.. Refugee.. right?? NOW HERE"S THE TROUBLE - A MUSLIM CROSSES OVER THEN HE IS A REFUGEE(ILLEGAL_THE TERM U USE); BUT IF A HINDU CROSSES OVER HE IS " A LONG LOST BROTHER". This is ur secularism??
  One thing more - If Mugals itch ur eyes so much then why does india Suck the Revenue they r getting from all the Monuments like Taj mahal, qutubminar . and What About RED FORT. The PM of india loves to Blast his voice in INDEPENDENCE DAY from a "INVADER"S FORT". OK>> That Previous problem again... if the so-called invaders were HINDUS then U ould have already made the GODS. ut U r too "SECULAR" to accept A muslim Ruler.
 i have a suggestion for u - mail the PM (he is of ur type) to stop shouting from that Invader's fort and also Tell his "SECULAR FORCES -RSS,VHP" to tear down this monuments as they have done to the "Invader's(Babar) masjid". Clean ur goody goody "Secular" INDIA.. which only resides in ur Mind.. The Rest of the indians dont think like that and thats what I WANNA CLEAN. 8)  
 
Krity
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«on: 12/25/01 at 02:46:02 »		   
Folks, Its one of the most disgusting articles I have ever read. I am not sure what was the idea behind such illogical ranting. Here Mr. Silchari_blood is dividing the populace into "Refugees" and "Natives" and accusing the "Refugees" as being the root cause of all evils in Silchar - Unemployement, Communal Riots, Overcrowding or rather settling down in crucial (?) locations like link road.. crucial !!!  excuse me what are we talking here. Few years back it was farm land. And btw these so called "Refugees" have helped the economy of Silchar trmendously.

And as far as other evils are concerned let me say this, a few years back there was a world Muslim conference in Haflong. Did we need this ? Have we ever heard of a conference for encouraging businesses /  improving life style / Education etc. Why not think progressive ?

Also if everyone starts think that only the locals can stay at any place..imagine all Maharastrians in Mumbai, all Tamils in Chennai, all punjabis in Punjab etc... What do we have ? INDIA ? definitely not.  Mr. S_B being so much civilized (his english is pretty good and Englishmen are civilized by his own admission) its high time you stop dividing people on whimsical lines.

FYI, I am an Indian from Silchar.

Cheers,

Krity
  
 
nitaipil
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/25/01 at 03:14:11 »		   
hello blood could you please tell me about your garnd father and his grandfatrher. ?  
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/25/01 at 04:05:28 »		   
 What does a "WORLD MUSLIM CONFERENCE" has to do with People crossing over the border and with development? Its A religious matter and to be dealt by the people of that community. And Assam doesn't just platforms for MUSLIM conferences.  
 And as far as the Matter of "DISGUST" is concerned, I thought this was a Free for all and Non-compulsive Board. U aren't forced to Digest what ever someone writes. And u r equally free to start a "EQUALLY DISGUSTING" Topic. Every topic is Disgusting for someone or the other. ;)  

someone wrote:
 "..imagine all Maharastrians in Mumbai, all Tamils in Chennai, all punjabis in Punjab etc... What do we have ? INDIA ?"  Well Here i m not talking about tamils or Mizos. I m rather talking about REAL "Refugees" who dont even belong to our Nation. Kindly see the dictonary meaning of Refugee.
  Lastly, If MY raising this topic Divides people then It must surely be dividing The Native Indian from Those "Refugees".

Think Again.  
 
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/25/01 at 04:56:45 »		   
hi niti ur question is very very............. :D :D :D :D :D
uska baap dada ke saath tera kya kaam hai??? ??? ??? ??? ???
hum sooch ke parasaan ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :) tu  :-X :-X :-X
re. nayi toh logo ko pata chal jayega ki tere dimug me gass chadi hai. abhi tu :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( mat
mera salah hai ki tu blockpanti  ;D  chod de.
aur akalmandi ki baate kar.
8) 8) 8) 8)
in simple terms bore mat kar >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
tere liya  :-/  
 
nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/25/01 at 05:03:12 »		   
kriti hi
        how could u compare maratis and sikhs with refugees  
 
Krity
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«on: 12/25/01 at 05:41:05 »		   

[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=0#10 date=12/25/01 at 04:05:28]
 What does a "WORLD MUSLIM CONFERENCE" has to do with People crossing over the border and with development? Its A religious matter and to be dealt by the people of that community. And Assam doesn't just platforms for MUSLIM conferences.  
POINT TAKEN. BUT DID U NOT MENTION RSS/VHP ? I GUESS THESE CONFERENCES ARE NOT COMMUNAL AS PER U..VERY CONVENIENT I MUST SAY.  

 And as far as the Matter of "DISGUST" is concerned, I thought this was a Free for all and Non-compulsive Board. U aren't forced to Digest what ever someone writes. And u r equally free to start a "EQUALLY DISGUSTING" Topic. Every topic is Disgusting for someone or the other. ;)  

ATLEAST U ACCEPT THAT IT IS DISGUSTING.

someone wrote:
 "..imagine all Maharastrians in Mumbai, all Tamils in Chennai, all punjabis in Punjab etc... What do we have ? INDIA ?"  Well Here i m not talking about tamils or Mizos. I m rather talking about REAL "Refugees" who dont even belong to our Nation. Kindly see the dictonary meaning of Refugee.
  Lastly, If MY raising this topic Divides people then It must surely be dividing The Native Indian from Those "Refugees".

I MENTIONED PUNJABIS 'COZ THEY TOO WENT THRU A SIMILAR SITUATION. HOW COME NO ONE CONSIDERS THEM REFUGEES ?
AND TALKING ABOUT REFUGEE, MAY I REMIND U THAT B'DESH WAS ONCE PART OF INDIA (OR MORE CORRECTLY PARTLY BENGAL AND PARTLY ASSAM). SO HOW DO YOU DIVIDE PEOPLE OF THE SAME AREA -- SURELY NOT BECOS SOME WERE UNLUCKY TO BE PROSECUTED ON RELIGIOUS/POLITICAL GROUNDS AND OTHERS NOT ?

Think Again.
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nlaskar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/25/01 at 05:49:14 »		   
  I just came across this topic and found it worth replying. If i am not mistaken, most of you are youths? But you are not aware of the true facts and history of silchar. Being a senior citizen of our little town, I want put some light to the topic:
  At the time of indepence, the population of silchar town was 50-50 (hindu-muslim). It was quite like the way silchariblood had pointed out in the very beginning. Our Businesses florished side by side ( in hospital road, premtola, central road).  But all this changed slowly. Our East bengali brothers came pouring in. They got no resistance from our side. Eventually there were riots and looting in the town. I myself have witnessed all this shop burnings and killings. The then muslim population moved away to sub-urban areas where they still live.

But you youths better forget all this and help making silchar a better place to live in harmony.

we also used to debate over it but it was fruitless.
   
 
 
 
nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/25/01 at 20:02:45 »		   
hi kriti
        u see punjabis came during independence time and so thats it .they r not pouring in india every year in thousands .  
 
Himadri
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/25/01 at 21:44:26 »		   
[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=0#7 date=12/24/01 at 20:49:32]
NOW HERE"S THE TROUBLE - A MUSLIM CROSSES OVER THEN HE IS A REFUGEE(ILLEGAL_THE TERM U USE); BUT IF A HINDU CROSSES OVER HE IS " A LONG LOST BROTHER". This is ur secularism??
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Well Silchari_blood, here's why Hindu immigration is different from Muslim immigration.....because Muslims immigrating into India illegally may lead to a situation one day when the demographic profile of say North East is permanently altered and we all know from history what that leads to, don't we ? Another partition of the country and secession based on religion ! That's something which is absolutely unacceptable for Indians of all hues and that's why we have to be cautious about it.History has taught us this very unpalatable and bitter truth but that's what it is, plain and simple.....we just cannot let that happen all over again.Hindus immigrating from Bangladesh are political asylum seekers in a way because they face persecution in Bangladesh.There right to be in India and be allowed to be decent citizens is paramount to the ethos that  India stands for and something of a responsibility that was thurst upon this nation on that fateful day when this country was divided on religious lines.India cannot shirk from that responsibility, not even for once !

That is why Hindu and Muslim immigration is different, alright ?

Now coming to your comment about Mughal legacy...yes, Taj Mahal and Red Fort are part of our history, and so are a lot of other things which the Mughals gave us but that does not mean that Babur was not an invader.He did not even live in Delhi.He used to run the country from Kabul.It is the biggest quality of Indians that all these invaders also could be assimilitated within its own.Later Mughals tried to assimilate themsleves into the mainstream by being Indians and not some Turko-Mongol rulers, but that does not apply to most of them including earlier ones like Mahmud Ghaznavi or Timur Lane.The attempts to stamp out older history and culture of this nation by all the rulers of the Islamic period is something that has culminated into those bull-headed history textbooks of Pakistani schools.Check those out and you would know what I am talking about.We do not deny our history or the past legacy and assimilate the good and try to reject the bad.Aurangzeb tried his best but failed to religiously subjugate the local pupulace.Mahmud Gahzni invaded India seventeen times and destroyed the Somnath temple all of those seventeen times.Examples like that galore through that stage of Indian history.These are the real legacies of that period although their are the good ones like the Taj Mahal et al. as well.If someone takes pride in those bad things, then its time that we consider those people as traitors.Its in our best traditions to take the good, and reject the bad things like the extreme iconoclasm of the Islamists.That has wreaked havoc in the past and is doing the same in the present day as well.There is no way that the whole of the Islamic period can be called India's heritage.Most of its parts were bad dreams and its time we identified those as such for posterity.
  
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
As far as The economy is concerned.  
«on: 12/25/01 at 23:45:28 »		   
Krity wrote:
"Here Mr. Silchari_blood is dividing the populace into "Refugees" and "Natives" and accusing the "Refugees" as being the root cause of all evils in Silchar - Unemployement, Communal Riots, Overcrowding or rather settling down in crucial (?) locations like link road.. crucial !!!  excuse me what are we talking here. Few years back it was farm land. And btw these so called "Refugees" have helped the economy of Silchar trmendously."

 It seems u have not attended ur Ecomonics classes regularly or else u wont have give such layman statements. Just some colorful, small roadside shops dont imply that the economy is healthy. Let me tell u :

 The main "AIM" of economics is to help in "upgrading the living conditions of the people" and to ensure a "healthy market competition".    What do we have in Silchar? - neither of it. The MPC (marginal propensity to consume) or the "purchasing capacity" of the public is much below normal compared to other cities of Noth-east (now pliz dont refer hailakandi or karimganj, this are villages). Just look at Aizawl or Shillong or even Dibrugarh.
  Next, the larger chunk of the upper segment market is controlled by Marwaris (well i m not against that, atleast they r helping in providing employment).
  Now how do u say that these Refugees are helping the economy? Firstly , they r increasing the POPULATION of the city. This in turn causes unemployment which fuels poverty and CRIME (refugees being cause of evil??). Secondly, with more refugees in the market (i m refering to the economic not the physical market) there is more demand for goods (specially giffen goods). This forced the suppliers to invest more on inferior good (take the case of the recent Poisoned channas). Thus leading to less supply of upper segment items (there is not a single decent mall in Silchar, i m not advocating despot capitalism, but that is what economics aims for). Take the case of Rikshaws. Due to less government regulation in the number of rikshaws, more and more of them r seen in the town. Thus the demand for rikshaws decreases hence their rate. People start prefering rikshaws. Eventually the other means of transports (auto, buses, taxis) also cut down their prices. This is harmful for the suppliers. They have less capital and so they invest all the less. This is a vicious cycle. AND IN NO WAY DOES IT HELPS THE ECONOMY, LEAVE ALONE "TREMENDOUSLY"!!.

 Pliz dont compare punjabis with bengali refugees. They r a boost for the economy in real terms. Many of the indians abroad (sources of foreign income) are punjabis.      
         
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
Learn to live With MUSLIMS - this is INDIA  
«on: 12/26/01 at 05:40:27 »		   
Dear Boy.. :-[ u have given more then enough explanation needed to prove ur patroitism and to enlighten us. Now some thing to be made clear:

   U dont want another partition..right? U call MUSLIM TRAITORS : what were u and ur REFUGEE brothers?? Just Traitors to bangladesh. Till now we were civil. But let me ask u one thing - do u think that we indains are so foolish to agree with ur Arabian Night stories of horror and Sufferings in bangladesh? What ever may it be. That was ur nation and ur government (don't say that u didnt had the right to vote). The people who were "PROSECUTING" u were ur countryman. Tommorow if there is a civil war in india... i don't think a single muslim will cross over to bangladesh or pakistan and Cry over there for sympathy. Those things are beyond our ethos.
   One more thing - I think it is time u learn to live with the Muslims - whether u like them or not. India is in Asia, not in America or Europe (got it). If Mahmud or Babur still Haunt u in ur Dreams then u better go to mars. There won't be any muslims over there (I am not suggesting u to go to moon since u doubt the Crescent too... isnt it??). U people need some rest. The present world is too civilised for u it seems. U r some what like the Taliban and RSS -  They too can't tolerate other religions. Is this what ur Dad had taught u?? And is this what Bangladesh had taught u??    
 
  U people must have done something over there else why would they have bashed u for no reasons? - there is no fire without smoke.


   YES I DON'T ADVOCATE WHATEVER BARBARIC ACT WAS DONE ON U. BUT U R ALSO AT FAULT. ITS TOO MUCH A COWARDICE TO LEAVE ONES NATION - LAND, PROPERTIES, MEMORIES JUST LIKE THAT. IF U HAD RESISTED THEM, THEN HOW LONG WOULD THEY HAVE CONTINUED WITH THEIR ATROCITIES. This just shows ur disloyality and nothing else. How CAN WE EXPECT U TO BE LOYAL HERE?
 If u r prosecuted here then tommorow u may run away to BURMA but we won't. WE R NOT "REFUGEES".  
   
         
 
Krity
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«on: 12/26/01 at 07:14:24 »		   
Mr S_B,

I am a layman but this much I understand that the buying power of the people in Silchar is quite high. Also it is one of the busiest markets in NE where a large volume of transactions is carried out daily ( and the so called "small colorful shops" have daily turnovers running in lacs. You can check this out in Fatak Bazaar urself, if you care). This money is pumped in back to the same place as expenditures etc. Whether this conforms to the dictionary meaning of economy I don't know. And btw why compare silchar with Shillong / Aizawl.. These my dear friend are state capitals and infact Shg was the capital of undivided Assam. However even in Shillong the "money" is NOT controlled by the locals. Also these states recv. a lot of sops from the Centre but that is different story altogether.

You also wrote :
"Take the case of Rikshaws. Due to less government regulation in the number of rikshaws, more and more of them r seen in the town. Thus the demand for rikshaws decreases hence their rate. People start prefering rikshaws. Eventually the other means of transports (auto, buses, taxis) also cut down their prices. This is harmful for the suppliers. They have less capital and so they invest all the less."


The example you gave is in direct contradiction to one of you earlier statements "AIM of economics is to ensure healthy market competition".

Also even a dullhead (as per economics goes) like me can understand the for a good economy the cost of transport MUST be less. Cheap Transport or in other words Communication is one of the vital cogs of a sound Economy. Your ideas are fantastic !!!

And btw, just because Punjabis bring in Foreign Exchange ( which India definitely needs and are a boost to our economy ) is it reason enough that they should not be considered refugees ? Could you pls. let me know in which dictionary "refugee" refers only to poor people ?


Cheers,  
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/26/01 at 10:31:16 »		   
Krity (after brushing up his Economics) :-/ writes:

  "Also even a dullhead (as per economics goes) like me can understand the for a good economy the cost of transport MUST be less. Cheap Transport or in other words Communication is one of the vital cogs of a sound Economy. Your ideas are fantastic !!! "

  U accepted urself as "dullhead" ... so i m not commenting again.
  Look: it seems a full-wallet for u means a Good economy. But what about the rhikshaw, auto drivers? I dont say that u should pay them without travelling; but if u pay them less then at the end of the day they go home with lesser amount of money (their purchasing power decreases)- next day their wives buy less veg from the market - less sale for the veg sellers - so they dont have enough money to buy more veg for ur kitchen - less veg means more demand for vegs and ULTIMATELY U ARE THE ONE WHO PAYS MORE FOR BUYING VEGS. So, the money u dont pay to the rhikshaw puller is paid by u to the veg seller. Ur money is spent after all and economy does not benefits even. Even if u dont understand this simple example then u r a GONE CASE. :-/    
 
   "Fatak bazaar is earning in lakhs and they r pouring back the profit in the market". So where is the physical output? If u have visited fatak bazaar u wont have said so. The bazaar is in a complete mess and there is job generation only for the bihari motias. The Standard of living is same (infact worser) then as it was 20 years back.

U say that buying power of silcharis is high. Can u show me a single upper segment market which exists (leave alone florishes) in silchar. By purchasing power(MPC), i didn't meant the power to purchase atta, maida, alu, duplicate jeans, stinking perfumes. There isn't a decent Place to chill out or even walk in the town. Now pliz don't say now that i am over expecting from silchar. I love silchar as it is. But u said that the economy is great here so i had to mention all this.

   Ok.. aizawl and shillong are centre's PET. What about Didrugarh?? U just seem to miss points too much.Take the case of punjabis... U said that punjabis were also refugees. But along with punjabis u mentioned maratis and tamils too. But later u missed them. What do u tell?? ???      


  
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
BYE FOLKS  
«on: 12/26/01 at 10:38:47 »		   
   :DOk folks.. it was a great time talkin with u all... specially Himadri.. ur english was pretty good ;). Its time i have to leave. I m going abroad for few months but i will try to keep mailin my opinion.. i dont promise to be regular.

   If I said anything which hurted anyones feeling then pliz pliz dont mind... :) It was quite a healthy debate... hey why am i saying "was".. i would love to talk more with u. and over more topics. Common HRC.. come up with more topics.. we may turn up with same ideology.  8)

  And YEAH :

   A very HAPPY NEW YEAR TOO U ALL.... AND CONTINUE THE ADDA.... After all we all love and live with SILCHAR ;D  
 
 
Himadri
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Re: Learn to live With MUSLIMS - this is INDIA  
«on: 12/26/01 at 12:18:41 »		   
Sure pal, no hard feelings ! 'Twas just an argument.Had a good time...
just that this argument was digressing into an illogical rant and I did not have any intention of continuing it, but just to clarify one thing.....I did not in any of my posts say that Muslims were traitors or say that I did not like Muslims.Its not good to jump to conclusions.And as for those stories of Hindus being persecuted in Bangladesh recently....they did not appear first in Indian press but were reported in the Bangladeshi press by organizations run by Muslims.

Have a Happy New year.

Cheers !  
 
beezee
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 12/26/01 at 20:02:55 »		   
I have been reading this debate in the net, being far away from Silchar in a different country. Crossing border line in search of economic freedom is not a new thing. Here in US the mexicans constantly the cross border to find new life. Many are caught and sent back home, and they again try. There is no immediate way to solve this problem. It is a good sign that our economy better than many other countries. I have seen poverty in east european countries. India is doing much better. To solve this, border has to be sealed, and this is impossible. We have to bear this because we are doing better.
BZ  
 
Krity
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 12/26/01 at 23:09:43 »		   
S_B,

You tend to interpret a lot of things in a manner convenient 2 u. I never said that the economy of Silchar is "GREAT".  All I said was that the so called refugees helped the economy tremendously.

I donot know where u are goin but incase its USA then maybe u will appreciate my comments regarding "cheap transport" / market competition etc. Its the basic things that determine the economy and not fancy things like "places to chill out" etc.

I could go on & on but that would be diverting from the original topic of the dividing the people. Being  an educated man, the least you could do is unite the people and not further divide. We already have quite a few on religion/caste/poltical  etc. The need of the hour is working as ONE & as a "team". Also why can we not follow the simple rule of "Live & let Live". Is is asking for too much from the "EDUCATED YOUTHS" ?


Wish u a pleasant trip and a Happy New Year.

Cheers,

  
 
nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 12/27/01 at 00:33:27 »		   
  Hi folks... i was not much into this topic.. but really enjoyed the debate.. :D. The best part is that non of u had ill feeling towards each other.
  "Bon Voyage" to Silchari_blood. one question for u SB
I m wondering ??? whether u r going back for higher studies and gonna come back here again to serve silchar or u r also seeking Greener pastures also?? ;)  Kiddin Yaar

Anyway HAPPY NEW YEAR TO U ALL BONDUS.
  
 
Indian
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/10/02 at 07:16:51 »		   
Guys like Silchari_blood(if a Hindu) should be nuked out of existence along with his Muslim bhais.  
 
m_factor
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/15/02 at 06:54:58 »		   
so indian... has a list of advices everyhere... guys like tis live in ozy ouses... their parents pet... seen a speck of thir town... and run ound ith drunken ideas... tis group of egg headed bunch of political ictims sould be sen o asylum.. they need real treatment ... :-/  
 
Asim Burman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/21/02 at 04:25:53 »		   
One thing please remember that Silchar was under the control be Kachari King in Kashpur.And People like the forefathers of silchari_blood were imported by the Kachari King for attending their
cows.They were mainly Rakhals imported from Sylhet.So these(Silchari_blood) people are not the original people
from silchar,but Chakors or labourers imported for serving the king of silchar.
So as far as the status of silchari blood is concerned ,he may be a software engineer now,
but actually fit for writing software related to Cow Maintenance.And Bihar may be the right palce for
him in future .
As far as the partition refugees are concerned they were mostly businessman,teachers ,professionals
etc who are not comparable to the Chakors or Rakhals like Silchari_blood.

  
 
ojeen
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/21/02 at 05:38:10 »		   
O re ba Asim,
Tumar rajai (Kachari King) gaamsa ogu finto naa maathat dito ektu koibai ni?  ;D  
 
silchari_blood's friend
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/21/02 at 05:50:29 »		   
Though I am also  a old resident like silchari_blood ,but I recognize what asim burman says is 100 percent correct.so ojjen you need not be so angry,you should try to understand the facts.what is wrong if our forefathers are rakhals.  
 
nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/21/02 at 06:25:15 »		   
hey asim
         so in 21st century u believe in caste system huh.
u don't believe i dignity of labour if his great great pa's r rakhal as concluded by u ,then he should  be rakhal programmer .u have got great sense of humour but not logic
this things only shows ur frustrations of being a refugee and claims of being some hi-fi in bangladesh before .but pity u have to argue with rakhals now.  
 
M-factor
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/21/02 at 06:30:46 »		   
Hey asim... u sound like a brahmin pot hole, self style zamindar.... so how did u guessed that the SB... was a rakhal... and r u the kings desendent... all sounds too prehistoric ... the debate was bout post independence probs and trauma... and no stupid conclusions r invited... pliz.

and how did u ever imagine that a rakhal(if at all)... can be less human than all those stinkin... kings. There was only one king... and rest of the world is RAKHAL...is it?? so for u theres jus two species... eh??
     
 
Asim's Supporter
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/21/02 at 06:50:40 »		   
so at last someone has come out  with some facts and exposed silchari_blood and his brothers as revealed by one of silchari_blood's friend himself.so cool down and close this issue.
no use of any furthur justification with blood.Now that silchari_blood is as good as water mixed with red colour.  
 
Krity
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 01/21/02 at 12:43:06 »		   
Asim,

You raised a very important point that the so called "natives" themselves are not the original inhabitants of Silchar..I guess its true not only for Silchar but everywhere.  So it is high time people ( and educated if I may add ) stop dividing their fellow brethen on such flimsy grounds.

BTW you donot have to hit "below the belt" to put your views across. Hope you take this in the right spirit.

Cheers

  
 
Asim Burman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/22/02 at 03:49:41 »		   
I have hit below his belt to drive home the right point,because
he was hitting below the belt of other people who doesnt have any fault of
theirs,but were the victims of partition.  

 
 
Nononsense
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/25/02 at 23:40:27 »		   
Refugees R refugees and musims r muslims... and both r stayin in silchar... now all this talks r not gonna mke them leave thier places... ok.  If guys like asim and indian could waste the youth in productive purposes... them silchar wlud have been a better place... i swear. Ur Attitude is really next to nonsense... please get better.  
 
nazia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/26/02 at 07:53:44 »		   
hi nononsense  :)
    yeah i agree with u that all this boys are wasting their time and money (surfing) discussing something which has no apparent solution. as far as i know silchar is such a peaceful place with no visible tension . but boys r trying to sound silchar like kasmir or palestine.
 well u boys can't u come up with some thing worth to be discussed instead of abusing ,cursing and discovering new histories.  
 
i love silchar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/26/02 at 08:05:14 »		   
::) 8) 8)This is for everyone who r dying over this topic :-[ :-[
   " Carva (SB) chalta hey... kutte (rest of u) bhokte(bark) hey.. ;D ;D
   
 
Another Silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 01/29/02 at 04:22:06 »		   
Silchari_blood,m_factorial etc and others,stop all this bullshit topics on this room and better put up non-controversial topics  
 
m_factor
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/02/02 at 08:20:56 »		   
  So u mean that this topic is controversial and hurts ur ego and all that... but then wats life with no controversy.. do u want to discuss ... pizza recipes out here ...?? :o
  Or topics like why some gals out there dont speak in some languages??... face the world as it is boy...
  We should in fact cheer the SB for startin such a bold topic... i jus supported him coz none out here seem to come to his side... though wat he was sayin was (we everybody know)... fairly TRUE.
  well  ::) "another sil" we r waitin for u to start some politically sweetened topic... music to everyones ears... and delight to everyones taste... but then rem one thing... that wont get u as famous or(infamous whatever) as this guys eho have guts... anyways... people have there own taste... and this site dont cost us to Xpress our feelings and all that.
  To put together " CONTROVERSY UPROOTS EVIL" ;)  
 
Another Silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/04/02 at 00:45:34 »		   
Well what about Israel.What is your idea about ths country.
I believe it is avery strong country which has defeated its three big neighbours in just seven days.They are the most intelligent people in this world.
And fortunately they are getting very close to India.And they recognise that Indians are as Intelligent as them.So doy ou like them or hate them.  
 
akbar_ki_aulad
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/05/02 at 08:11:10 »		   
yea... isrealites r big big nation... go lick their ass.... then the give u some alms for some refugee camp in premtola.  
 
Akbar ka Dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/05/02 at 23:31:38 »		   
Hi Akbar,
     why so angry when the name Israel comes to your ear.
Be ashamed and keep quiet like you did when India defeated Pakistan(Akbar's Legacy) and captured 1 lakh soilders in 1971.
 Its a different question we left them because of our tolerance which you people dont have.
Cool Down man.

But you and your President(Mussharaf) who are admirers of Akbar do lick the ass of USA for alms and penis of Bin Laden for religion .you cannot deny that.
 Meanwhile if you are so close to Akbar,then why dont you follow his language(Urdu) and script(farsi).
 You are contradicting yourself by speaking Bengali(which is  derived from Sanskrit) and English.
You should not have read English or written this language.
  Because they have destroyed your ill-civilisation in India and handed power to the Hindus.  
 
akbart_ki_aulad
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/09/02 at 23:50:51 »		   
Firstly i am a silchari(thats why i am speaking in this site). people seem to be drinking in daylight this days. Man mussarraf isnt out ruler(if you think so then its different). This dumbo feels that every muslim is a pakistani and every hindu an indian ( GOD :o even madrasra dont teach such things).
As far as isrealites and Americans are concerned(and that u have brought religion in the matter) then let me say one thing : Isrealites are jews and americans are christians. And we share the same Scriptures and prophets. The term we use is : "PEOPLE OF THE BOOK". and to be for frank, this people of the book are brothers and if they fight or have a dispute then it will be settled accordingly(brothers fight but not like enemies). So your daydream that isrealites are anti-muslim is a hoax. And that isrealites will come to help you in your anti-muslim campaign is strategy too good to be TRUE. Mind it, Isrealites and christians are all the more intolerable towards idol-worshipers. Stay with them a little longer and you will know that soon.

May god help you out!! :-/  
 
akabr_ka_dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/11/02 at 15:13:11 »		   
Dear Akbar,English is a roman script and your script is based on Arabic which is no way related to English.
you didnt reply why you speak in Bengali which is derived from Sanskrit(Language of the IDOL Worshippers).I know why??
So Either convert back to your forefathers Hindu religion or adopt Islam  fully by following Think Islam,Eat Islam,talk Islam,Write Islam policy.
You follow only 'Think Islam' by supporting Pakistan during India-Pakistan cricket match and supporting ISI.
    I have lot of Jewish and American friends in my company and I know them well.Our common enemy is your UBL,understood.  
 
akbar_ka _dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/12/02 at 13:18:06 »		   
well akbar_ka_aulad read the topic above and below I have copied it from another section.

I have gone thru allthe above topics.
But what I know as far as Punjab and Bengal(these two states were divided during partition).In West Punjab(Pakistan) when the  Hindu and Sikh Punjabis were killed ,those Hindu and Sikh Punjabis came to East Punjab(India) and retaliated
in the process sending all Punjabi Muslims to West Punjab(Pakistan) and talking over their property.So their problem was solved once and for all.
But in Bengal,it was only a one way flow.Because Bengali Hindus didnt have the guts like the Punjabi Hindus and Sikhs to retialiate and take over the property from Bengali Muslims.
They  are also too much tolerant to remember anything.
That is why they took to leftist ideology in both Assam and Bengal instead of thinking to retaliate and get their due.
This fact is apreciable from outside but was not in long term interest of Bengali Hindus .
Even in Calcutta,for the first three days during the 1946 riots.Timid Bengali Hindus were  massacred everywhere.
It was only when the Punjabi Refugees from West Punjab and the RSS activists came to Calcutta on the fourth day,that Hindus started retialiating ,but then Gandhiji immed came down to stop killing of his Muslim brothers to please Jinnah in vain.Otherwise Muslims started leaving for East Pakistan but was stopped by Gandhi who in a joint speech with Jinnah  which he has given near CIT road urged them to stay back.
That stalemate exists today and so the problem.
Gandhi didnt care to come when the Hindus were massacred.
This fact was true all over India except Punjab where the people didnt care him.
The film HeyRam showed this fact to some extent.
The sad fact is no Muslim leader tried to protect the Hindus anywhere,leave alone any Hindu leaders as we can see them today also.
The news papers at that time(1947) condemned the Punjabis like anything but after all the Punjabis have to solve their problem and they did it themselves.  
 
Reba
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/13/02 at 15:06:28 »		   
To akbart_ki_aulad,

What brotherhood and 'PEOPLE OF THE BOOK' are you talking about?
You should really have your facts straightened out before you start putting some nonsense for argument sake. Refer to history or even your koran. I invite everybody especially muslims to read the following site http://www.golshan.com/rationalthinking/  
which is backed up with facts. This site is really an eye opener to understanding why we are facing the problems of the world today, whether it is terrorism, Bosnia, Palestine, East Timor or kashmir. Do you see the commonality in all these cases..
they all have to do with muslims and muslim psyche. You should read about the atrocities faced by the christians and jews at the hands of muslims.
What kind of brotherhood is that?
And if you have the guts, take up the challenge of answering to the site's arguments backed up by facts of course.
BTW, the site's author is a muslim...one of those who came to realize the true nature of his religion.

  
 
Sane
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/15/02 at 02:24:46 »		   
I am a muslim. And what people are writing here seem both way meaningless. Is it that only muslims are torturing people around the globe. Then what about the muslims of india .Whom are they torturing ? The majority hindus and Sikhs?? This is all manipulation. No body can tell a religion is good or bad. There are bad people in every part of this world and in every community. Can ANYBODY here(akbar, reba, or anybody) deny that. That is the fact and we are very well aware of it.  
 
k.chakrabarti
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 02/15/02 at 11:54:58 »		   
silchari_blood,son of akbar& nazia all seem to be in the pay roll of isi for creating a rift among hindus of barakvalley.but we r well aware of your malicious attitude.pl. try to recollect what happened to lavi nath & savita nath about two years back.it is to be mentioned that both of the victims belonged to "indigenous"hindu community.can u tell me how many muslim voters of sonai constituency voted for shri troilokya bhushan nath who again is a "indigenous"hindu. so, stop shedding crocodile tears at "indigenous" hindus & be bold to say 'we hate u hindus(kaafirs)'.alternatively,pl. try to come out of your narrow mental framework&join us for the welfare of silchar&barakvalley.  
 
laden ki puaa
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/20/02 at 06:56:19 »		   
k charkrabrasti or whatever ur a piggy. piggy in the railway picking up stones ,there came all muslims and broke piggy  :'( :'( :'(bones and piggy is abusing in maha adda  :-[ :-[and we don't care :P :P :P :P  
 
chaks  ki follower
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/20/02 at 07:06:28 »		   
namaste k.chakrabarti
"try to come out of your narrow mental framework&join us for the welfare of silchar&barakvalley".i like it. so dear what welfare ru doing tell fast jaldi jaldi. i want to clean offf silchar along with u.  
 
true silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/22/02 at 08:53:51 »		   
Laden ki puaa ,  
Go  to this site and get some knowledge about your islam!!
http://www.golshan.com/rationalthinking/khalida_zia.htm
Y ou can also see  http://www.golshan.com/rationalthinking/

You people are trying to escape the truth of your Notorious
Islamic  ideals.  
 
sane
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/23/02 at 01:27:24 »		   
golshon.com must have become a heaven for u people isnt it? Why dont u byheart all the lines over there? It will strengthen ur faith all the more because ur faith is based on the backyard of all other faiths...ha. Read this and Think of a logical reply: prove u point. PROVE UR FAITH>
U said that there were no muslims in REC and all that: if u have any GK about silchar, the former 2 Pricipals of REC were  Muslims. And the wretched muslims that u live with r ur recent low caste brother who converted to islam becoz u dont let them live in PEACE. U r worser then racist . Cant accept ur own brothers becoz he is a sudra or watever. U call urself civilized and deserve microsoft post, if microsoft would have known ur background(SC ST) through which u eat off the seats then they will kick u out in the first place. Is there any qouta for minorites. Well we dont want either. A chunck of the seats r sucked of by u castes and backward people. We r not backward. We dont need all that government backin to feed of childrens. The day government withdraws all this qouta . Ur lifeline will cease and u cant properly reach 10+2.. laeve alone microsoft.
  The reason u get jobs abroad(USA, Middleeast) is that u r the cheapest of labours and can live over nutss and enjoy the little bits of crumbs u get. Do u know that the salary diffrence of a indian employee and a white employee is quite large. U people dont deserve that much slary coz ur intellectual level is far down the road. U DONT HAVE SWLF DIGNITY, else u wont have worked in places(middle east) where the call u infidel beggers and USA(ehere they beat u every now and then: rem bindi busters, the gang that beats hindu women)
And a bunch of NRIs dont prove that rest of hindus in india r well off. come to the streets of ur metropolis and u cant diffrentiate betwn a kid and a dog. did u ever thought of doing anything for them .NO.. they r low caste and YOUR GODS HAVE ORDERD U NOT TO TOUCH THEM EVEN. DONT THOSE SUDRAS WORSHIP THE SAME GODS: so ur gods r themselves partial and biased to ur own people. In that case what can we expect from u followers. (u give loads of ladoos to ur gods while ur brothers r starving in the temple steps, isnt it quite civilized)
  It a blessing and a challenge to be born MUSLIM in india. We Dont take the goverment crumbs(SC<ST seats), we dont treat our poor brothers as dogs. OUR GOD TEACHES BROTHERHOOD not untouchabilty. Our places of worship allow everybody inside for refuge(including women, if u have any misconception). THe water we drink is the same for everybody. We dont burn our widows, We dont burn girls for dowries, we dont divide our people in terms of their fathr's title. We jus dont worship anything we find BIG. We r much much more  RATIONAL then Anybody else. OK  


  
 
hard talk
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/23/02 at 07:06:25 »		   
Q: Who actually are REFUGEES?
A: Those people who had migrated after INDEPENDENCE.

Q: Do they have any right to avail facilities here in india?
A: Ofcourse NO!

Q: What is theier relation with Israel?
A: Only the refugees know that(maybe the work as cheap labors for them)

Q: Why do the brag about their patroitism?
A: They are afraid that their own existence among the Indians will be lost.

Q: Why are they so so jealous of the Resident muslims?
A: They had nightmares of what their country(bdesh) muslims have done to them.

Q: Are they really patroitic?
A: Yes, as patroitic as Dawood ibrahim.

Q:  Are they stealing the facilities that were meant for us indians?
A: They might be stealing OUR rights, but we are big hearted enough to give it as ALMS.

Q: They seem to be very influential in the IT world(with allthose percentages coming up)?
A: Aap akro pe kyu jate he?.. and who said u all this??

Q: Some Self esteemed "so called Indian" in this site.
A: Please tell him or her to prove that through their deeds and not through the sucess rating of our fellow indians(sabeer bhatia and guys).

Well thanks for coming to our HARD TALK... We are coming up next SATURDAY with more RAW DATA and HARD TALK.
  
 
k.chakrabarti
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/23/02 at 11:31:54 »		   
mr. silchari-blood & his followers,for your kind information Tagore & Netaji both r worshipped not only by us but by the world as a whole. Late Moinul haq choudhury was a great leader of the region & we have great respect for him. but in any case he can't becompared with legendary figures like Netaji & Tagore. don't u think it to be an unequal comparison? at the same i like to remind u some names like Late AK Chanda,Late Nibaran Laskar,LateSatindra mohan Dev,Late Dwarikanath Tiwary,Late Mohitosh Purkayastha whom u might have forgotten as they did not belong to your community . pl. try to develop impartial views in using the names of great men.  
 
k.chakrabarti
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/23/02 at 11:47:17 »		   
95% of antisocial elements (chor, dakait etc etc.) of barakvalley belong to muslim community. they r the "jonjaal" of our barak.let us start our welfare work with "safai" of those "jonjaal".can we expect co-operation from silchari_blood & co.? or they like to join the "chor dakait association".  
 
rakhal_ka_dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/25/02 at 00:34:56 »		   
Well cool down rakhal_ki_Aulad(not akbar_ki_aulad as you claim),you are beating around in the Bush speaking bull
shit things that Pundits would have taken to Barbarism(Islam) if it existed at that time.
Akbar would not have spitted on Rakhals like you.
    You Rakhal assHoles (Silchari Muslims)were imported by the Kachari King from Sylhet around 100 years back.
Well you know when i was interviewed two Candidates(one a Silchari Muslim and the other a South Indian Hindu).
The Silchari Muslim  thought of getting a favour from me the way he talked.But I selected the SOuth Indian Guy only.

So its pity that you people have to beg for job with a Silchari Hindu.

 Now Reply in clear terms why are u not speaking Islam,because Bengali is not derived from arabic or farsi.
Also you didnt reply why you write and speak English which is derived from Roman Script
and with whom you people fought Crusade for hundreds of years.
Also computers and EMail are not Islamic Products on which you people are working now.
In Email at least we have an Indian contribution in a big way like Sabeer Bhatia.
Why so much Hypocrisy in you people.
As far as USA is concerned,now they are treating you people very respectfully after September'11.
As far as Middle East is concerned,mostly Labourer Muslims from India,PAK and b'dsh go there and
they are treated lilke dogs by those rich Shiekhs.So what caste system are u talking about.
As far as Big Companies like Microsoft are concerned,they take people based on capability.
That is why you people are not 35 percent there.They dont pay less in any way to majority of Indian
Employees.Few of them who went on H1B visa may be getting less for intial 5 years.
But after that they get equally like the Americans.
Our SC/ST brothers are content with govt Jobs in India and they hardly try to go abroad.
Mostly upper caste people go abroad because they dont have govt. jobs here.
But that is none of your problem.The fact is you people consitute 90 percent of
all Criminals in India and Silchar.
Abu(our REC principal) was licking the Ass of a Hindu S.M.DEv,who helped him to become principal.
Not because of his capability.And he pulled many Muslims as faculty some of them I remember resembled
real life Rakhals.I dont know whether you are one among them.
Also read the topic about Punjabis I have put above in one of columns and reply back.


***I have a very close South Indian Muslim Friend because he is among the 10 percent good Muslims in
India for whom we have a very deep respect.
  
 
akb
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/27/02 at 08:45:24 »		   
good atleast u have respect for someone 8) 8)  
 
dil pe mat le
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 02/27/02 at 08:51:01 »		   
hey u all people out here, why ru taking this foolish ,stupid topic in a very crude way rifting people's sentiment and even making some people like nazia and shamim leave this site.
 cool off guys before this site creates more heat  
 
Aniruddha Aditya
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 03/01/02 at 02:39:01 »		   
Hi "Silchar Blood"
Let me be clear to you all that we are not "REFUGEES". Many
of our fore father where born and brought up at Cachar itself. And whats wrong speaking high about Bose or Tagore. They were one amoung us and we are proud of it.Ofcourse, the contribution that Moinul haque Chowdury given for Silchar was outstanding and no other leader has done the same yet. It was he who brought REC, PaperMill and many more for us.
We(Hindu or Muslims) are doing the mistake forgetting his deeds. We should remember and respect him for what he has done for us all.
So far the issue of "Regugee" is concern its a shit and no damn shit has the rights to speak such shit about us. We are Indians by blood and we are proud of it.




 
 
akbar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/01/02 at 07:16:36 »		   
Dont bring religion to support ur lame excuse. Refugees r refugees.. thats their first identity... and not that they r hindus... so they get the licence to settle down here in india.
and also... it was that refugee himadri who started this heat with his previous topic... he seem to be dead now.. or gone back to the wretched land of his.. bdesh..
no guts left to prove his postion.
 
  this is for all refugees of silchar:
 
  " ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME THAT U WILL REALIZE UR STAND AND WILL B CAST TO THAT"  
 
raw fact
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/01/02 at 07:49:32 »		   


Hindu communalism and its political organisations remained amarginal force in Indian politics both before and afterindependence.

Hindu communalism as also Muslim, Sikh and Christiancommunalism have, however, grown since 1977. What isperhaps even more important, there has been a certainconfusion among sections of the middle classes and theintelligentsia regarding BJP, the main political party of Hinducommunalism today.

It is not that they have gone over to communalism, but ratherthey have failed to understand the basic character of BJP.

Many see it as some sort of right-of-the-centre ChristianDemocratic type of party with some religious or culturalappeal for Hindus. They also regard it as functioning withinthe limits imposed by its own constitution, leaders andprogramme. Both these assumptions are wrong.

There is also a misunderstanding regarding communalism.Communalism is not a set of specific policies such as thebuilding of a temple at Ayodhya or the enactment of a uniformcivil code. Communalism is basically an ideology, a beliefsystem, a way of looking at society and polity. Variouspolicies acquire a communal character only when they arearticulated with a communal ideology. Communalism is alsonot to be confused with communal violence, which is anindirect product of the spread of communal belief systemamong the people.

A major aspect of BJP is that it is a communal party becauseit is structured around communal ideology. The cadres of BJP(and RSS) the sinews of any party or movement are recruitedand enthused over the years through strong and nakedcommunal ideology. To suggest that BJP minus communalismwould be 'alright', is to ignore the centrality of communalideology to its existence. BJP minus communalism would notbe 'alright', it would be a big zeroand BJP leaders know it. They can sugarcoat the communalideological pill but they cannot function without it.

Many people also think that once in power, BJP would be'tamed' ideologically and would gradually get humanised andsecularised, especially under the leadership of liberal anddecent persons like Atal Behari Vajpayee and L. K. Advani.Such people forget that once an ideology spreads widely andprevails for a long enough period it acquires a life and forceof its own and not even those who nurtured and spread it cancontrol its effectivity.

For example, after 1937, Mohammed Ali Jinnah and theMuslim League propagated an extreme, near-fascist versionof communalism. Suddenly, on August 13, 1947, Jinnahdeclared in the Pakistan Constituent Assembly that therewould be no distinction or discrimination in Pakistan ongrounds of religion. But he and the leaders of Pakistan couldnot shed communal ideology so easily. It was nowindependent even of Jinnah's will. Certainly, as a person,Jinnah had no communal hatred in him. But once he tookrecourse to communal ideology for years, he became asmuch its prisoner as his ardent followers. And even if, havingused it to get into power, he was willing to abandon it, thoseon whose backs he had ridden to power would not do so.Consequently, communal ideology was to become andremains Pakistan's dominating ideology.

Furthermore, and above all, BJP is not its own master. Likeits predecessor, Jan Sangh, it is a creation of RSS; itsideological character and strength and its cadres—its steelframe are provided by RSS. Critically important in thisrespect is the thought of M. S. Golwalkar, the only majorideologue of RSS, whose two books, "We or Our NationhoodDefined" and "Bunch of Thoughts" continue to be the onlyavailable published ideological guidelines for RSS and BJPcadres.

In his writings, Golwalkar usually referred to Muslims as'murdering hordes', 'free-booters', 'the enemy', 'forces ofdestruction', 'old invaders and foes', and 'our old and bitterenemies'. In 1939, he condemned the nationalists forspreading the view by which Hindus "began to classourselves with our old invaders and foes under the outlandishname—Indian". He went on to add: "The result of this poisonis too well-known. We have allowed ourselves to be dupedinto believing our foes to be our friends and with our ownhands are undermining true nationality. That is the realdanger of the day, our self-forgetfulness, our believing our oldand bitter enemies to be our friends."

And what should the non-Hindus do? Golwalkar's answerwas: "The non-Hindu people in Hinds must either adopt theHindu culture and language.... So long, however, as theymaintain their racial, religious and cultural differences, theycannot but be only foreigners... there are only two coursesopen to the foreign elements, either to merge themselves inthe national race and adopt its culture, or to live at the sweetwill of the national race... they must cease to be foreigners,or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindunation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less anypreferential treatment not even citizen's rights.... In thiscountry, Hindus alone are the Nation and the Muslims andothers, if not actually anti-national are at least outside thebody of the Nation."

In 1947, Golwalkar launched a venomous attack on Gandhijiand the Congress leaders for their secularism. For example,he said: "Those who declared 'No swaraj withoutHindu-Muslim unity' have thus perpetrated the greatesttreason on our society." These leaders, he said, were tellingthe Hindu "to ignore, even submit weakly to the vandalismand atrocities of the Muslims. In effect, he was told: Forget allthat the Muslims have done in the past and all that they arenow doing to you.... If they carry away your wives anddaughters, let them. Do not obstruct them. That would beviolence."

It was therefore, not accidental that Indian people turnedagainst communalism after the assassination of Gandhiji inJanuary 1948 they rightly concluded that Gandhiji's deathwas caused not by the act of a few disoriented youngmen butwas the result of the spread of communal ideology and hatredduring 1946-47.

Some object to this critique of Golwalkar and BJP-RSS onthe ground that all this was said and written in the past andGolwalkar has in any case been dead for years. But apartfrom the fact, pointed out earlier, that Golwalkar's writings arethe only published works available as ideological guidelines toRSS and its front organisations, their basic content is dailypropagated orally among young persons in the RSS shakhas.It is also to be noted that RSS and BJP leaders have at nostage publicly or in their two journals, "Panchjanya" (Hind))and "Organiser" (English), disowned or critiqued or evenexpressed their disagreement with any of Golwalkar's views.In fact, tghe very opposite. In thepages of their two journals, the RSS ideologues andpropagandists continue to propagate the basic ideas ofGolwalkar as any perusal of these journals would show.

In contrast, those Marxists and Communists who disagreedwith Stalin's thoughts and politics of the 1920s and 1930shave had no hesitation in making a public and detailedcritique of Stalin. And only then could they convince othersthat they were no longer Stalinists. In fact, the Marxists havealways either defended or critiqued many of the ideologicalformulations of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Mao.

Lastly, the danger of BJP coming to power is not that it wouldimmediately take anti-Muslim or anti-Christian steps or that itwould start implementing its agenda regarding templeconstruction at Ayodhya, Article 370, etc., or that it would notgive enough or important portfolios in its Cabinet to itssecular allies such as Samata Party, Hegde's Lok Shakti orJayalalitha's AIADMK.

The real and long-term danger is that it would start using statepower to communalise society. The state can through itsmyriad channels, from educational system to mass media andadministrative measures, promote various elements ofcommunal ideology. BJP-RSS can also start penetrating thestate apparatuses, the educational institutions and theinformation channels through hardened communal cadresrecruited and communalised at an early age.

In fact, this is precisely what they attempted even in 1977and, of course, later when they were in control of severalstate governments. They could not go far because their rulein the states did not last long; and what is more importantbecause basic state power in India lies with the CentralGovernment which has been hitherto under the control ofCongress, Janata Dal or the UF.

To learn and understand what happens when communal-typeforces capture state power, we have the experience of notonly Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Japan under fascismbut also of Pakistan where the secular forces find it difficult,and even impossible, to get out of the quagmire after thecommunal forces captured state power in 1947 under theleadership of the mild-mannered, sober and personally decentpersons like Jinnah and Liaqat All Khan in alliance withex-Communists and liberals like Mian Iftikharuddin, Mazhar AllKhan, Maulana Bhasani and Abdul Hashim.


  
 
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/01/02 at 07:54:21 »		   
The Sangh Parivar has taken another step towards demarcating the nation as Hindu. So far the attempt has been to stigmatise Muslims as alien and anti-national and thus to exclude them from the nation. Now the net has been extended to include Christians also. Many people are surprised by the sudden attack on this peaceful, small community, with a low profile in politics and hence of no threat to the Parivar. What is really surprising, however, is that it has taken so long in coming. For Guru Golwalkar himself had bracketed Christians with Muslims and Communists as anti-national. His disciples are now implementing his teachings through violent means.


The last one year has witnessed well over a hundred incidents of attack on the person and property of Christians. The attacks are not incidental to communal conflicts to which Christians are a party, but are unprovoked physical attacks and arson and intimidation by the stormtroopers of the Sangh Parivar. They are all criminal acts perpetrated under the political patronage of the Bharatiya Janata Party. Missionaries have been stripped naked and paraded through the streets, even burnt alive, nuns have been gang-raped, churches have been razed to the ground and the Bible and other religious literature have been burnt.


The heightened animosity and violence against Christians coincides with the rule of the BJP at the Centre. Prior to that the incidence of violence against Christians was relatively low. It is estimated that over a period of 32 years, from 1964 to 1996, there were only 38 instances of violence against Christians. Even in 1997, not more than 15 instances were reported. Apart from the increase in their numbers, the area of incidence of such attacks is also suggestive: most of the attacks have occurred in States ruled by either the BJP or its allies - Gujarat, Maharashtra, Uttar Pradesh and Haryana. That in none of these States governments gave adequate protection to the victims perhaps accounts for the increase in their incidence.


Instead of taking stern action, BJP leaders have either rationalised or justified what the cadres of the Parivar did. In Gujarat, where the attacks against Christians have been intense and continuous, conversions have been invoked as a reason by none other than the Chief Minister himself, suggesting thereby that Christians themselves are to be blamed for inviting the wrath of Hindus. A senior functionary of the BJP justified even rape as a reaction to conversions. The response of Prime Minister A.B. Vajpayee, who is considered a good man and a liberal by many, was the most devious. By calling for a public debate on conversions, he suggests that the blame, in fact, rests with the victims. His move is a veiled threat to individual freedom, guaranteed in the Constitution after extended discussion in the Constituent Assembly. The freedom of conscience and the right to propagate it, be it of religious faith or of atheism, cannot be dissociated from the rights of the citizen in a democracy. The freedom, it is said, is indivisible.


Is conversions the real issue? Or is it only a surrogate for advancing the Hindutva agenda?

Christianity in India has a history of about 2,000 years. Beginning almost at the time of its inception, Christian missionaries have spared no effort to "save the souls of the idolatrous, superstitious Hindus". They set up their missions, churches, seminaries and schools whenever and wherever they could gain a foothold. The missionaries learnt Indian languages, set up printing presses and published literature - both secular and religious - to propagate their faith. That in the process they contributed to the enrichment of Indian languages - in several Indian languages, the first codes of grammar were composed by missionaries - is a different matter. The missionaries used the public space to communicate the principles of their "superior" religion and at the same time to "expose the faults and foibles of Hinduism."


Yet there were no Crusades in India - not even what happened in China in the 19th century when missionaries were attacked and driven out from the interior. Hinduism responded in an entirely different manner. Instead of violence and coercion, the claims of the missionaries about their religion and their denigration of Hinduism were challenged through public debates. Theological disputations were integral to the intellectual life of India from very early times. It greatly contributed to the enrichment of its epistemological tradition. Such dialogues took place between members of all denominations - Buddhists, Jains, Christians, Muslims and Hindus. Quite often the rulers provided the platform for such debates. The Hindu-Christian debates have been theologically quite productive. In the 16th century, continuous disputations took place between Hindu pundits and Portuguese friars. When John Wilson, a missionary of great erudition and scholarship, was pursuing his evangelical work in western India, a Hindu intellectual, Vishnu Bawa Brahmachari, refuted his arguments against Hinduism at weekly public meetings at Chowpathy in Mumbai, following which a public debate was organised between him and some missionaries. If the pamphleteering of the 19th century is any indication, such exchanges took place between members of other communities also. For instance, in Malabar, Makti Tangal countered the arguments of the missionaries in several of his writings.


Indian rulers have generally adopted an impartial attitude in inter-religious relations. Not that they have not patronised their co-religionists or constructed shrines of their faith: the examples of such pursuits are aplenty from the times of Asoka to the 19th century. But lending support to the persecution of followers of other religions has been rather rare. There are exceptions though, as in the case of the Cholas, the Huns and the Sungas in early history, some Muslim rulers during the medieval period and the Portuguese in more recent times. But the general attitude is exemplified by what Maharaja Ranjit Singh said to one of his Ministers who happened to be a Muslim. A fakir brought to his court a copy of the Koran, which the Maharaja acquired by offering a large sum. When asked by his Minister as to why he, a Sikh, had done so, the Maharaja, known for his wit and wisdom, reasoned that God had given him only one eye so that he could look upon all religions without discrimination.


The colonial rulers, influenced more by expediency than by principles, chose to desist from interfering in religious matters. Until 1813, the East India Company kept Christian missionaries away from its territories. Several British officials, however, believed that Christianisation was both a religious and a political solution, as it was likely to ensure the permanence of the Empire. As a result, whether to Christianise or not was a widely debated issue. In the aftermath of the Revolt of 1857 - seen by many as a response to British interference in social and religious matters - the colonial rulers reaffirmed the policy of non-interference. The colonial state was not a major player in evangelisation, although a nexus between officials and missionaries did exist in certain areas without receiving official approbation. No mass conversions to Christianity took place under the aegis of the colonial rulers. State patronage was not a decisive factor in conversions.


At any rate, conversion is a complex matter. Richard M. Eaton, in an excellent study, The Rise of Islam and the Bengal Frontier, pointed out the inadequacies of the existing theories of Islamisation, including those of patronage and social liberation. His contention that the spread of Islam in Bengal was as a religion of the plough is fascinating. Yet it is true that conversions to both Islam and Christianity have been from the lower caste orders. The increase in the population of the Mappilas (in Malabar) in the 19th century is a telling example. The increase took place from the middle of the century after the abolition of slavery in Malabar, which is now part of northern Kerala. Many of the agrestic slaves freed from their bondage opted for Islam. Mass conversions have often been of a caste as a whole for which the internally oppressive system of Hinduism has been responsible, rather than any external agency. Rather than looking for scapegoats from other communities, Hindu leaders should learn to look inward.


After 2,000 years of Christian presence and almost 200 years of Christian rule, the progress of Christianity in India has not been very substantial. The community is still tiny. The Census of 1991 records the number of its followers at 2.4 per cent of the total population. Nor have they increased in number during the last decade; in fact, their strength has relatively declined from 2.6 per cent in 1981. The missionary efforts at evangelisation obviously have not met with great success. If so, there is hardly any substance in the present hue and cry about conversions being a great threat to Hindus. What is at stake is not religion, but political power.


Demarcating Hindus politically and culturally from other denominations is central to the politics of the Parivar. That is the essence of cultural nationalism which provides the ideological basis of Hindu communalism. So far this demarcation was pursued through a hate campaign as well as violence against Muslims. A stage has come when it has become necessary to expand the scope of the enemy, for two reasons. First, the possible political advantage from representing Muslims as alien and anti-national has run out of steam. Secondly, since 1992, Muslims in different parts of the country have shown that they are capable of retaliation. The lessons of the bomb blasts in Mumbai, Chennai, Coimbatore and Kerala are not lost on the Parivar: violence and aggression are nobody's monopoly. Home Minister L.K. Advani, who exudes communal hatred, on the one hand and distributes awards for communal harmony on the other, narrowly escaped being hurt in Coimbatore. Muslim-bashing is not easy any longer. Yet it is necessary to privilege the Hindu, in contrast to the alien other. Hence the focus on Christians.


The aggression against Christians is incidental also to the need to expand the electoral base of the BJP. Middle class-upper-caste support is inadequate to gain a majority in Parliament, as was evident from the elections of 1996 and 1998. In the quest to expand its electoral support base, the minorities and, to some extent, the lower castes are out of the reckoning. A group that can be possibly considered is tribal communities, among whom the Parivar has already initiated some work. After the BJP came to power, tribal communities are being wooed with promises of statehood to some areas where they are predominant. But the Parivar has to contend with the influence of Christians in the tribal areas where the missionaries and charity organisations have been active in educational and developmental work. The tribal communities can be brought to the Parivar's fold only by undermining the Christian influence. The outcry against conversions, as is happening in Dangs, is a result of this. Invoking Christian conversion as an issue is amusing since most of those who belong to tribal communities are not Hindus and their religious practices are not even remotely connected with any form of Hinduism. If Christians are accused of conversions, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad can also be accused of doing exactly the same thing. The latter is no less reprehensible than the former. In fact, in the 19th century, several tribal revolts were reactions to Hindu intrusion into their way of life. Both the missionaries and the VHP are in effect endangering the traditional religious practices of tribal people.


Another field in which Christians constitute a hurdle to the Parivar's march is education. The Parivar, conscious of the ideological importance of education, has set up about 20,000 schools under different denominations and is poised to form a parallel system. The Ministry of Human Resource Development, under the control of two Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) stalwarts, is queering the pitch for it. In a bid to facilitate the expansion of the Parivar school network, Human Resource Development Minister Murli Manohar Joshi recently proposed an amendment to the Constitution so as to extend to all other the privileges so far enjoyed by the minorities. He also tried to give some legitimacy to the parallel system by inviting the manager of one of the RSS organisations to present a scheme of education, at a meeting of State Education Ministers (Frontline, November 20, 1998). Unless Christian educational institutions, which generally enjoy a very good reputation for maintaining teaching standards, are discredited and displaced, the Parivar will find it difficult to advance its network. Hence the attack on these institutions in the name of abetting conversions.


Apart from all these, since the demolition of the Babri Masjid, Christian organisations and institutions have taken some initiatives to promote secularism and to oppose communalism. They have held workshops, conducted studies and generally promoted activities aimed to sensitise people about secular values. This has understandably enraged the Parivar, particularly the lumpen sections within it, both political and intellectual, which are out to teach Christians a lesson. While the BJP ideologue and eminent journalist Arun Shourie "unmasks" missionaries in his articles and books, the Bajrang Dal strips them naked in the streets and burns them alive.

The anti-Christian tirade is, therefore, not accidental. It is another example of the unfolding of the fascist agenda of the Parivar. That the BJP leadership, including the Prime Minister, has not unequivocally condemned it is reflective of its tacit acquiescence. Christians have been identified as another enemy, a new symbol, to demarcate the nation further as Hindu. The attack on Christians is therefore not a simple law and order issue, as some allies of the BJP seem to believe. It is a profoundly political question which can be overlooked only at great peril to the Indian Republic.


K.N. Panikkar is Professor of Modern History at the Centre for Historical Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi.

(Courtesy: Frontline, January30-February12, 1999)  
 
Himadri
hrc
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/01/02 at 22:06:26 »		   
[quote author=akbar link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=60#61 date=03/01/02 at 07:16:36]
... it was that refugee himadri who started this heat with his previous topic... he seem to be dead now.. or gone back to the wretched land of his.. bdesh..
no guts left to prove his postion.
 
  this is for all refugees of silchar:
 
  " ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME THAT U WILL REALIZE UR STAND AND WILL B CAST TO THAT"
[/quote]

This is for you Akbar, or whatever the hell your name is......
I don't get into any argument with jackasses like you, but for your own good I would say that you should get your psycho analysis done pretty soon, so that you stop blabbering like a nincompoop.

-Himadri.  
 
Himadri
hrc
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/01/02 at 23:16:55 »		   

[quote author=raw fact link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=60#62 date=03/01/02 at 07:49:32]

Hindu communalism and its political organisations remained amarginal force in Indian politics both before and afterindependence........

[/quote]

Well "raw fact", I would recommend you not to sing solo the paeans to your communist friends, 'coz it ain't gonna be pleasing to hear:-) Anyway, I ain't a big BJP fan as such, but what you are referring to as "communalism" is actually an assertion of an identity that has been repressed and made dormant for centuries.It is an inevitable consequence of an environment where a community's sensibilities have been trampled on for centuries, and their voices muffled.Someday these muted voices had to erupt and when it erupts, not all of them are going to have a polished veneer.The sham secularism that we have, needs to be changed just to get things back on the right track after years of lopsided governance that has continued to maintain a status quo on grievances that can tear us all apart once more after 1947.Hindus are secular by character.It doesn't have to be written on no constitution.Issues that have been put under the rug for too long need to be brought out to the fore.You may call that communal, but the tags don't really matter as these are real issues that need to be thrashed out and not brushed aside....that's what our secular political parties do.They have become captive to the pressures of their vote bank....that's why Buddhadev Bhattacharya had to deny his prior statement about Madrasas in West Bengal recently.That is the integrity of our secular politicians who cannot dare to speak the truth when it comes to such issues.

Well, its mighty sweet to hear that the communists of India have done a public critique of Marx, Engels, Stalin et al. May I have the privilege to see some of those......in say  
"Ganashakti" ? You might be able to help me here...although I am not sure of what's left of communism after Marx, Engels, Mao, and Stalin are out of the equation.Maybe Pol Pot or our own Jyoti Basu, right ?  
 
well-wisher
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/02/02 at 00:55:01 »		   
y guys r really sick man...to discuss such topic...and also this reflect that how much dirt u r havin in ur mind...speciall this arse S_B and his followers...i haven't wasted my 1 hrs reading this article that to in a country like US where there is lots of better things to do then to point fingers are one another....
please clean up up brain and work for something constructive..

bye....
  
 
well-wisher
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/02/02 at 00:57:44 »		   

[quote author=well-wisher link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=60#66 date=03/02/02 at 00:55:01]
y guys r really sick man...to discuss such topic...and also this reflect that how much dirt u r havin in ur mind...specialy this arse S_B and his followers...i haven wasted my 1 hrs reading this topic and that to in a country like US where there are lots of better things to do then to point fingers are one another....
please clean up up brain and work for something constructive..

bye....

[/quote]  
 
Kana Raja
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/03/02 at 21:32:15 »		   
Silchari Blood,

Good Job! Refugees like Himnadri's should have been kicked out of Assam a long time back. We did not, because we are too polite & gentle people. Time has come, all the fucking VHP people including Bangladeshi Refugees should be sent back. We need a cleaner Cachar & we are with you to support in any form.

Kana Raja  
 
tia
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/04/02 at 08:19:08 »		   
Hey maybe you should get your facts right after all if the civilised bengalis had not come over from the eastern side...then you westerners would still be eating frogs....or maybe worse stuff left by the british.......junglies.....  
 
tribal power
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/07/02 at 07:05:42 »		   

"Posted by: tia Posted on: 03/04/02 at 08:19:08
Hey maybe you should get your facts right after all if the civilised bengalis had not come over from the eastern side...then you westerners would still be eating frogs....or maybe worse stuff left by the british.......junglies..... "

Hey who ever u r...Wat do u mean by telling that people here eat frogs?? U r trying to refer to us tribals. That we eat such things is it?? Mr.Tia to tell u the fact , Silchar is in North east and this is a predominantly tribal place.  U all r leaving on our mercy and u know that well. Special u stinking dry fish eaters..ok.

by the way people in america (whom u worship so much)even try out all this new dishes. how do u so called bramins work for them then? U are very proud of ur hollow aryanist nature. But mind u this is the age of th dragons.. the frog and snake eatters.. (in case we can even eat U)
  
 
tribal power
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/07/02 at 07:08:09 »		   

"Posted by: tia Posted on: 03/04/02 at 08:19:08
Hey maybe you should get your facts right after all if the civilised bengalis had not come over from the eastern side...then you westerners would still be eating frogs....or maybe worse stuff left by the british.......junglies..... "

Hey who ever u r...Wat do u mean by telling that people here eat frogs?? U r trying to refer to us tribals. That we eat such things is it?? Mr.Tia to tell u the fact , Silchar is in North east and this is a predominantly tribal place.  U all r leaving on our mercy and u know that well. Special u stinking dry fish eaters..ok.

by the way people in america (whom u worship so much)even try out all this new dishes. how do u so called bramins work for them then? U are very proud of ur hollow aryanist nature. But mind u this is the age of th dragons.. the frog and snake eatters.. (in case we can even eat U)
  
 
dare u
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/09/02 at 02:13:26 »		   
tribal power
               i also eat lot of new innovative items but the thing should suit my taste not that it should be eatten raw , so don't be proud of eating it coz i too can and even can eat u  
 
k.chakrabarti
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/10/02 at 18:40:29 »		   
kana raja, before kicking off vhp u people will be kicked off Hindustan i swear. mind it 'hindi hindu hindustan mulla jaye pakistan'. this is our land not yours.pl. don't dream of driving us out.good bye.  
 
i will kick u
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/12/02 at 03:29:55 »		   
k.chaks ur a bump-licker of ur own dark obscure world  
 
akbar_ka _dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/12/02 at 23:18:00 »		   
well I didnt get reply from akbar_ka_dushman to some questions.Like why do you speak a sanskrit based language(Bengali) why surf in internet (not a hell  Islamic product) or write English(not Farsi or Arabic).
why not be a true islam by following eat islam or cowdung,drink islam or vodka,talk Islam etc.
Below I have written another intersting topic ;D.
Whatever happened in Sabarmati Express resembles that during Independence.When trains coming
from Pakistan were burned .But it is strange that Muslims dare to do such thing in India.It is
only because they are pampered too much by our power hungry politicians.
What I fell is that the entire Muslim Locality of Godhra from where the mobs came should be burned down.  
Then only they wont dare do such things in future anywhere
in India.Because every one is concerned about the riots but not about the train burning incident.
If the helpless Hindus dont take revenge ,then such train burning incidents by Muslims will become common.
  
 
tor bap.
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/13/02 at 05:38:59 »		   
mr S-B(sudhir bhai),it geems that u have no love for silchar. U like Mr M.F.hussain only want to discussed by others.And some other writers like I love silchar , seems to be S-B (sudhir bhai) himself only to make his nonscence ideas well supported. The imp. thing is that he is becoming successful to
lose others tamper.As for example me i m bound to write this letter by Sudhir Bhai's(S-B) Ashudami.So dear friends dont lose ur head like me by S-B's activity.  
 
3 cheers
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dance my bulbul  
«on: 03/13/02 at 07:44:52 »		   
:) :) :) bapu cheers to u ,u r simply gr8 enough to accept that ur gr8 enough to accept that u r  addicted to our provocating statements and danced to its tune, thats what we want and u did ;D ;D  
 
AKBAR_ka_dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/15/02 at 11:33:33 »		   
where are the pigs like akbar_ki_aulad,s_b etc.I think these pigs are gone on  a vacation to stay with ladu ,the hell.  
 
Akbar
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/19/02 at 06:43:23 »		   
u neednt worry bout us boy... we r jus merrying over all those rats who were burnt in guj  
 
akbar is stupid
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/19/02 at 07:06:34 »		   
akbar if u can merry at the dead of any person irrespective of religion then u are a devil ,tere jaise log ke mu nahi lagna chahiye...world is like this for blocks like u  
 
akbar is a bastard
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/21/02 at 02:22:16 »		   
to call akbar a stupid isnt enough, hes a big bloody bastard .  
 
u people r idiots
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/21/02 at 07:17:35 »		   

[quote author=akbar is a bastard link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=75#81 date=03/21/02 at 02:22:16]
to call akbar a stupid isnt enough, hes a big bloody bastard .
[/quote]
why do people use great king akbar 's name to hide ur self  
 
u r the greatest idiot!!!
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 03/25/02 at 13:37:28 »		   

[quote author=u people r idiots link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=75#82 date=03/21/02 at 07:17:35]

why do people use great king akbar 's name to hide ur self
[/quote]


well, to begin with, why dont u start using ur own name? ;D ;D ;D  
 
Akbar_ka_dushman
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/26/02 at 07:40:42 »		   
where is the Bustard Akbar ,he didnt reply about his policy of Speak Islam,eat Islam,pis  Islam etc  
 
wanderer
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 03/28/02 at 13:29:50 »		   

[quote author=Akbar_ka_dushman link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=75#84 date=03/26/02 at 07:40:42]
where is the Bustard Akbar ,he didnt reply about his policy of Speak Islam,eat Islam,pis  Islam etc
[/quote]


seems that bastard is busy browsing thru books to find out a proper answer.or it might be that he's writing a big essay , the bulk of which will be copied from some magazine(eg.
raw- talk 's long boring message).

but i sincerely think he's in pakistan, its evident from his message that they r making merry over the people ( or is it just the rats???? ) who were burnt in Gujarat.  
 
silchari_blood
silchari_blood
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/29/02 at 07:54:57 »		   
wats all this foul words going on. I have been following this bulletin from the beginning. it was a NICE stuff , PROVOCATIVE BUT NOT DIRTY. bUT AS SOON AS HIMADRI AND S_B LEFT THE ROOM, THIS PPL WITH INFACT NO IDEA ABOUT THE TOPIC SEEM TO BE BASHING EACH OTHER ON COMMUNAL BASIS.
 I REQUEST THE ADMIN TO STOP THIS GUYS FROM DESTROYING SUCH A INOVATIVE DEBATE. PLEASE

   
 
wanderer
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 03/30/02 at 03:08:30 »		   

[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=75#86 date=03/29/02 at 07:54:57]
wats all this foul words going on. I have been following this bulletin from the beginning. it was a NICE stuff , PROVOCATIVE BUT NOT DIRTY. bUT AS SOON AS HIMADRI AND S_B LEFT THE ROOM, THIS PPL WITH INFACT NO IDEA ABOUT THE TOPIC SEEM TO BE BASHING EACH OTHER ON COMMUNAL BASIS.
 I REQUEST THE ADMIN TO STOP THIS GUYS FROM DESTROYING SUCH A INOVATIVE DEBATE. PLEASE

 
[/quote]


well.......as i was thinking, its simply not fair :-/ :'( everyone was searching for akbar or whatever, and no one ever thought of the great silchari_blood!!!!!!! good to see him back with his innovative messages. way to go, mullah silchari . afganistan is not far away !!!!! cheers and keep it up!!!!!!

and if i am not mistaken, u were among the ones who started 'bashing each other on communal basis'. ;) i hope u have heard of the saying " AS YOU SOW, SO SHALL YOU REAP'!!!! ;D  
 
wanderer
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 03/30/02 at 03:11:57 »		   

[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=75#86 date=03/29/02 at 07:54:57]
wats all this foul words going on. I have been following this bulletin from the beginning. it was a NICE stuff , PROVOCATIVE BUT NOT DIRTY. bUT AS SOON AS HIMADRI AND S_B LEFT THE ROOM, THIS PPL WITH INFACT NO IDEA ABOUT THE TOPIC SEEM TO BE BASHING EACH OTHER ON COMMUNAL BASIS.
 I REQUEST THE ADMIN TO STOP THIS GUYS FROM DESTROYING SUCH A INOVATIVE DEBATE. PLEASE

 
[/quote]


well.......as i was thinking, its simply not fair :-/ :'( everyone was searching for akbar or whatever, and no one ever thought of the great silchari_blood!!!!!!! good to see him back with his innovative messages. way to go, mullah silchari . afganistan is not far away !!!!! cheers and keep it up!!!!!!

and if i am not mistaken, u were among the ones who started 'bashing each other on communal basis'. ;) i hope u have heard of the saying " AS YOU SOW, SO SHALL YOU REAP'!!!! ;D  
 
a khandani silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 03/30/02 at 21:17:24 »		   
[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=75#86 date=03/29/02 at 07:54:57]
wats all this foul words going on. I have been following this bulletin from the beginning. it was a NICE stuff , PROVOCATIVE BUT NOT DIRTY. bUT AS SOON AS HIMADRI AND S_B LEFT THE ROOM, THIS PPL WITH INFACT NO IDEA ABOUT THE TOPIC SEEM TO BE BASHING EACH OTHER ON COMMUNAL BASIS.
 I REQUEST THE ADMIN TO STOP THIS GUYS FROM DESTROYING SUCH A INOVATIVE DEBATE. PLEASE

 
[/quote]


Good. Now lets get down to some innovative talk.
     
1) Your message " 50 or so years ago........" is just pure plain shit!!! My ancestors were there in Silchar years before that, so I think even we have a say in this matter. I think it will be better if you stop abusing the Hindu refugees now, 'cos they were driven out of B'desh by the people there. (chalo I wont mention the community here). Everyone knows about the pains they had to go through, which forced them to leave their own soil.  If you were there in place of them, you would have done just the same, unless you are Jesus Christ reborn. So dont make it sound as if they came to India for a picnic. The remaining information about the peace and brotherhood being spoiled by them, is also wrong. With this kind of knowledge about the demography, harmony etc etc. of Silchar, you think you are carrying out an “innovative debate”, and that too with a wrong spelling? Go and learn the spelling of innovation, innovate, and innovative, first!!!!!!!
2) At least try to spare Great Men like Bose and Tagore from your innovative messages. They are worshipped by the whole country, and not only by your ‘refugees’.
     
  
 
Lock this topic for ever
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 04/01/02 at 03:38:31 »		   
It is really painful to read this topic. This topic clearly shows how dirty and sick can peoples mind can be. Strange that no one ever objected to this rotten discussion.May be people secretly enjoy such dirty conversations. And this dirty mindset explains why we have so much hatered in India.

This topic does not deseve to be in Red hot or burning topic any more. Requesting Admin to lock this topic for ever or delete this from server. This topic is making the whole room stink like rotten eggs.

Admin, you should have the moral responsibility to encourage healthy topic and throw such unhealthy conversations to trash bin. This kind of topic does not clearly throw good idea about the website you have designed and maintained so well.  
 
what happen
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nothing  
«on: 04/09/02 at 09:03:15 »		   
good mr. admin u unlocked it truth is bitter but u people accept it ultimately  
 
refugee bandhu
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 04/12/02 at 09:00:50 »		   
dear s_b
joined ur forum thinkin' something very interesting and fruitfull,but i'm sorry it's nothing but trash ur talking about. u started with hindu muslim brotherhood of the KHATI-SILCHARIS and ended up with all the "SECULARISM' and RSS VHP issues don't u think ur original argument got lost somewhere. if u think all the bad things happened to silchar due to the Bangladeshi (hindu) refugees than ur mental level is as poor as ur counter parts in Karachi or Lahor, who call ur Muslim brothers from this part of india migrated to that part of earlier india during PARTITION, as MUHAJIRS.

i'm a silcharite, my forefathers came to this place 50 years back and i love this place as much or may be more than u love b'coz this kind of thought never crossed my mind. and i'm really surprised to find that this kind of thinking process any silchari can indulge. and i'm more surprised with people like myself and Himadri replying to this kind of trash. may be we are also becoming KHATI-SILCHARI.

clear up ur mind

REFUGEE  
 
cachari
cachari
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 04/13/02 at 11:09:16 »		   
hi silchari blood
are you really silchari? if so how can it be identified? how can you make difference with a refugee blood? blaming and cursing others for your own misdeed is not a wise thing. You dont even know the history of silchar as well as cachar. who told you that 50 years ago there was peace in silchar among naths and muslims? why you are making difference between a nath who took indian citizenship rather than becoming a pakistani or (later) bangladeshi under barbaric and undemocratic theocratic nation.
Go and gather real history. this will not only enlighten you but also stop spreading hatred among the community.

  
 
For admin
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 04/14/02 at 02:54:02 »		   
Strange !! Mr Admin..!! why did u lock the topic and then reopen it?

If you think that this topic is within limits of healthy debate, if you support the mental state, attitude and languages of the people posting in this topic, then you should not have locked the topic at all.

---------  reply from admin ---------

admin: I got a few mails about this topic and as I was busy then I deleted a few posts and locked it till I could go through all of them. But again, this is a discussion room where people express their thoughts... I am surprised and
worried at the amount of hatred people have for each other, but again assuming one writes what he thinks , then I guess its ok for all of us to pen down what we think. And if everyone expresses his or her opinion the truth whatever it is will come out .. and the dirt will be cornered...

As far as cleaning the topic is concerned ... I dont think its just to delete the whole topic ... I welcome all of you to mail me about objectionable posts and I will edit/delete messages on a message to message basis..  
Thanks
admin
  
 
im muslim indian silchari
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who am i??  
«on: 04/15/02 at 03:55:34 »		   
people out here think that we muslims of silchar and northeast are related to karachi and lahore. this is a very premature assumption. like some people think that africa is full jungle and northeasterns eat humans. this proves that the read more of fictious novels then current affairs. well if being a muslim means being stereotyped with pakis is a mad man's fantasy. this sort of dogmatism is expected from halo-effected people who want a self fulfiling propecency. if they think that relating us (silchari muslims) with those pakis ( though our fathers dont know to speak hindi or urdu properly) makes us alienated from the indan mainstream then soory, it just creates a negative effect which will back fire to them only. as it had happened in other parts of the globe. please stop relating us with militants and terorrist. Who is being terrorised in gujrat, palestine, bosnia .. india(u.p, maharastras... now dont say that every muslim in india burnt some of ur relatives). this is a fact. it is not just gun romance or unemployment which creates terrorist. it is this alienation.
and some people (who think they run the society) are just doing the same.

its good that you retrospect once a while.
else we dont want another west asia out here.
  
 
musafir
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 04/23/02 at 01:33:03 »		   
So much for freedom of speech, my reply seems to have been taken out of the so called adda, are bhai jodi kholasa koira khotai na hoilo te oile adda jombo kemne?  
 
born in silchar
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No one can hijak silchar  
«on: 04/23/02 at 09:51:19 »		   
well folks  :D
hey nobody can hijak a city for the first thing - all that is u r afraid is b'cos u guys hav fear in ur hearts. well if u r strong urself and not lazy-like no one one can snatch UR city ;D
and start workin hard rather then thinkin of what others are doin - if we had not been lazy enouhg otherwis how could these marwaris doin business over here ''''''''''''''''''' ???
give it a thought fellas
love
a so-so silchari  
 
happy silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 04/24/02 at 09:00:18 »		   
thank god.finally the topic has been unlocked. u see, i really wanted to have a " NICE CHAT"  with silchari_blood . lotsa qs u see....like where he got those weird idea about hindu refugees spoiling the oh-sooooo-great unity of silchar.
so long for now........will be back soon ;)  
 
ripan
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HI! Folks  
«on: 04/27/02 at 16:05:31 »		   
Hello! Everyone in this room..
I could not go through whole of the discussion. But I got a feeling that it has taken pretty bad shape. Fellows let us not further create more trouble for this part of our country. Already we are having so much of trouble.
If you wanna alleviate this place Silchar from it present deteriorating state , ..we have to fight something else..corruption, dishonesty,castism ( Although it is spread over our whole country)..and we need to take oath that we will always discourage an act which qualitfies to be put into one of the above categories.
 bbye
ripan
LSU  
 
lets do it!!!!
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Re: HI! Folks  
«on: 05/02/02 at 08:00:11 »		   

[quote author=ripan link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=90#99 date=04/27/02 at 16:05:31]
Hello! Everyone in this room..
I could not go through whole of the discussion. But I got a feeling that it has taken pretty bad shape. Fellows let us not further create more trouble for this part of our country. Already we are having so much of trouble.
If you wanna alleviate this place Silchar from it present deteriorating state , ..we have to fight something else..corruption, dishonesty,castism ( Although it is spread over our whole country)..and we need to take oath that we will always discourage an act which qualitfies to be put into one of the above categories.
 bbye
ripan
LSU
[/quote]
very well. so u start a nice topic and we'll contribute accordingly. and keep ur eyes shut to all the actual problems sorrounding us nowadays.cheers.  
 
a concerned
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 05/07/02 at 15:19:38 »		   
I feel the people of silchar and the refugees who have come here are real good.. inspite of they being driven off their homes by the most hated illogical irrational people ... people who believe killings ... they yet let them stay in their land which was divided on the basis of that..  
 
kalyan
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/04/02 at 18:39:58 »		   
You are all discussing and coming to the basic question of all- what is the true identity of Silchar. It seems some people are trying to steer the discussion in favor of Muslims (in Silchar ?!) like any other part of the world and India. Muslims were never a part of India and any other parts. They only belong to Arab countries and as per Quran , that is the reason why it was written in arabic.
If any one has to accept the best things like omni-potence of God or His power or his form-less , end-less ONENESS, then you don't have to talk all these things in Arabic. "Muslim" in Arabic means "one who has submitted to God" and that you can say in Sylheti and you don't have to use Arabic for that. You can say, "AMI BOGOBANER BHOKTO"! Identify yourself with the soul of India that has been existing much before Quran was written.Everything was there in the sanatan dharma in India before Quran was written. Everything that written in Quran are there in our ancient religion much before Quran was compiled. In Quran, it was said if there was any scripture written prior to that written by Moses ? But our scripture was existing before Quran or Moses got his scriptures.So Islam was not necessary here in India or Silchar.This Arabic culture was imposed upon the peace loving people of India by Barbaric invaders from Arabia. All the present Indian Muslims, whose ancetsors converted themselves to Islam, were converted either by force or coerced into that.The day they became Musliim they ceased to be a part of India but identified themselves with Mecca and their aim in this life is to protect their mother city (mecca) [as said in Quran]. Quran also says "Infidels" can't be a Muslim's friend. If you want to see how some islamic education sites talk half truths about Hinduism go to a site called www.geocities.com/sanatanhindu where you will see the links to Muslim Education sites.
Someone equalized "HAJ" with "SARBA DHARMA SAMA BHABA" and he IS WRONG. Idea of HAJ is to promote Muslim Brotherhood only.
Muslim religion preaches many good things like the praise of One God, respect to parents or zakat (a payment for poor) etc but their single point Jehad is against those who worship "idols". These might have been true for fight against the Qureshs (original idol worshippers of Mecca) or Pharao (whose stories with Moses are described in Quran in many Suras (chapters). But this can't be true for Sichar or India. Unlike India's Sanatan dharma (eternal religion) they could not accomodate God's oneness as well India's (Silchar's?!!) different God's. Can Muslims in true Quranic version can be a part of this "SECULAR" thaught of India or Silchar  because of their ultimate hate to "idol worshippers" !!!!
This is a sincere appeal to true muslims of Silchar and ask yourselves a question to your true identity. if you need to submit to God (be a true Muslim), is it necessary to pray for the doom of your fellow Silcharites who worship Idols of Shiv, Durga, Ganesh etc? Is it necessary that you pray and believe that "on the final day of judgement when god will again come", only you will go in "heavan" (where you will live in eternity and there will flow river underneath,you will have good naurishing drinks served in golden trays and goblets, dates and grapes will be there for you  in the company of persons with modest look (!!)) and your fellow Sicharites who worship Durga in parts of Silchar will go to "hell' (where boiling water will be thrown to their faces and under them will be fire !!! etc). Can you now say that these Idol worshippers of Silchar are your brothers and all of you work for the same end and not pray for their doom?  
 
Uttam Sen
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/05/02 at 05:56:47 »		   
Hi Secularist Brothers,
Please come with your answers to this message.
I would also like to narrate another incident in Bangalore recently in Tilaknagar area.
What happened is that some Hindus were going with their Puja processions besides a masjid,But the innocent Muslims(not communal) inside the Mosque(or for  that matter anywhere else)
could not tolerate   any Hindu Processing going near the masjid.So they started creating
trouble with the Hindus and some areas in Bangalore are under curfew.
 But the strange thing is the so-called secularist from Times of India are quiet.
 They will only start making noises when the Hindus retaliate by not allowing any Muslim
 Procession besides the Temple.All such terms like Nazi,fascism etc will be heard again
 and again.  
 
Ha ha
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/05/02 at 08:40:05 »		   
Friend, why are you always so itchy to create communal passion ?

sometimes as uttam, sometimes as prakash.. sometimes as rajendra, always trying to hide behind different identitites.. Interestingly the junk mail-ids you type "subconciously" in your different postings always become identical.. ;) ;) ;D

More interestingly, two of u'r best friends Shah Alam,and Akbar Khan who always jumps in to support your views also types their junk e-mail ids "subconciously" as similar ones...

Uttam -   sdkhfs@djfslk.com
prakash - dskfjskd@slkdslf.com
Akbar Khan     kjskasja@lksak.com  
                   hjahsja@saksjak.com
Rajendra         ajskajsk@sasjlka.com
                   jdhsjshaj@skjdks.com      
                   dskdskjdk@dsajdks.com
ShahAlam       dash@sdkfsl.com
                   kjskajsk@sasjlka.com

This statistics can be verified accross Mahaadda postings..What a coincidence.. ;) ;) ;)
 
Actually you were unable to hide your style of writing and style of expressing.. style of argument..that exposed you. ;)

  
 
EAVESDROPPER
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/07/02 at 19:55:09 »		   
WELL WELL WHEN SILCHARI BLOOD STRATED THIS TOPIC HE DISCUSSED ABT PROBS FACED DUE TO REFUGEES ........ AT THAT TIME I DIDN'T AGREED WITH HIM MUCH BUT NOW SEEING THE COMMUNAL MINDSET OF REFUGEES  (NOW WELL SETTLED IN SILCHAR) THROUGH THEIR WRITINGS IN MAHA ADDA ... IT IS PROVED THEIR MIND IS DIRTY........THIS PEOPLE THEY HAVE SPOILED THIS SITE AND  SO IMAGINE THE HARM THEY WILL INFLICT TO INNOCENT ,POOR AND UNDERPRIVILEDGED MUSLIMS OF SILCHAR......
AGREE IT U ALL CAME TO INDIA FOR GREENER PASTURES AND NOT DUE TO TORTURES...WELL I AGREE SOME OF U WERE BADLY TORTURED BY UR COUNTRYMEN.....BUT NOT ALL.... AGREE IT THAT U ALL R GREEDY LIKE ANY AVG HUMAN BEING AND ITS THAT GREED ALONG WITH MINOR TORTURE THAT SWEPT U ALL HERE.........FINE WE ARE KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE U ALL LANDS AND JOBS AND INFINITE PRIVILEGES BUT U ALL DIDN'T FORGET UR BANGLADESHI MINDSET.BE IT BANGLADESHI
HINDU OR MUSLIM U PEOPLE HAVE A BAD MIND U PEOPLE R VERY FOOLISH ,EASILY GET PROVOCATED AND GREEDY THIEVES.....WHY BANGLADESH BEING A MUSLIM COUNTRY DOESN'T HAVE A RADICAL ORG.... BECOZ U BD'S R COWARDS AND CAN ONLY BE PETTY THIEVES OR REFUGEES....
YES I DO AGREE EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR BETTER LIFE.....
BUT NOT LIKE U ALL ITS SHAME THAT U WRITE IN OUR SILCHAR SITE THIS LOWBROW ATTITUDES AND ABUSE ISLAM
NOW HOW DO U FEEL IF I SAY UR HINDU RELIGION IS SO BARBARIC THAT WIDOWS HAVE NO RIGHT TO LEAVE AND BURNED ALIVE "IS IT ANCIENT INDIA'S VIEW ABOUT LIBERATED WOMEN" AS CLAIMED BY ONE OF U THAT ANCIENT INDIA HAD ALL KNOWLEGDE AND WISDOM.......AND I KNOW LOT OF THINGS IN UR RELIGION WHICH I FEEL IS RIDICULOUS
BUT THEN LEAVE IT ....................UR R WISE TO DO BALLI OF 2 YEAR OLD CHILD FOR YOUR BENIFIT.............UR WISE TO
TO WASTE LADOOS AND GHEES IN PUJA WHEREAS UR OWN POOR R HUNGRY AND DYING OF STARVATION.....OH ITS RIGHT FOR U ALL TO REMAIN NAKED TOTHE LIKES OF NAGA RISHIS OF KUMBH MELA AND BLAH BLAH ENDLESS.....
U COWARDS CAN ONLY SHOUT IN THIS SITE ANDBEYOND THIS POINT U ALL HELPLESS ,U SILCHARI WRETCHED REFUGESS SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE GUTS OR BRAIN TO ELIMINATE THE MUSLIMS OUT HERE ....... I SIMPLY PITY AT YOUR MENTAL STATE TRAPPED IN UR MOTHER LAND MENTALITY(BANGLADESH)  
 
Shyam
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/10/02 at 03:12:24 »		   
Well you Silchari Muslims should be kind enough to us because we didnt kick you out of India(Silchar) like the Punjabi Refugees have done to Punjabi Muslims and solved their problems permanently.
Dont worry,execute one or two incidents like Godra and you will see the consequences like it happened there.
After all Gujrati Hindus were known to be very  timid people ,so will the Muslims of Gujarat dare to burn any train.
I think you know the answer very well.
You know what happened to a Congress MP (Jafri) in Ahmedabad.Though you will find lot of Supporters from Hindus (Communist or Congress Man)but they cannot help you at that time.
The way you are multipying in Assam by varous methods like Infiltration,Polygamy etc,the days are not far for another Nellie to happen.

 
 
golden eye
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/10/02 at 10:35:33 »		   
1/6th of WORLD population are INDIAN : more than 80% of Indians are HINDUS. Hindus are nothing but breeding creeps. Timid YES ... Brains NO.  
 
golden eye
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/10/02 at 10:44:51 »		   
the world was created by (jus see wat):

1) a three headed monster
2)a play boy
3)a street dancer....lol

  
 
kalyan
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/10/02 at 16:54:42 »		   
That is my actual name.To answer some of the remarks about the "satis" in India. there are are and were many bad customs followed in different sects in the Hindu dharma.but the greatest essennece of sanatan hindu dharma is that whatever is not good for a society can be challenged and removed. the "sati' system was reformed by Hindus only .
Similarly islam religion attacks and converted and still converts lower caste Hindus. While time and again in this Sanatan Hindu Dharma , it has been found that reformers arrived in various ages and preached aginst these caste system like the Bhakti movement, Brahma samaj etc and ( latest being the Mahatma Gandhi). And all these reformers are being respected and worshipped by hindus. This shows the strength and resilience of this religion. It is unlike Islam where nobody can change the perceptions over ages. most of the educated Muslims whom I know including those from Iran, Egypt, even pakistan feel that many of them should be changed but can not because of the "strict unchangeable" status of Quran.
I personally read whole of quran and many other Islamic books on various aspects of Islamic thaughts and philosophy. While the concept of Monoethism (one-god) is good and there is nothing new in this and does not contradict with any other religion including Hinduism. Basically Islam rests on the foundation of Christanity and that fo Moses (Torah etc) except the unchangeable status and additing many stict conditions etc. For a rational person ( who does not belive in Quran or the messanger) many questions come withrespect to Muhammed and different parts of Quran like the incidences of Zainab and Zaide etc. and the very concept and description of Heavan. I don't want to elaborate these as these may hurt the feelings of many Muslims who by heart and soul believe that.
I shall certainly clarify some points which one of the comments have touched:
a) the concept of three- headed monster (Brahma) is a simily.It helps Hindus to visualise the process of universe- or the ominipotent self whom in Arabic is called "Allah". in Parsi is called "Khuda" or in India called "Parameswar". It visulalises the age old process of creation (in past), then the process of prservation (the present) and then the transformations (of future).
b)About Krishna and his relation with female Gopis is being explained all the while by semi-learned Muslim Clerics. In Quran you are told of eternal garden where you wil rest in "peace for ever" etc etc etc.,. So in effect all the Muslims in the world should be striving and working "consciously" to meet Allah (on the final day of resurrection). This process, this love or desire to meet Allah has been desribed in the form of these selfless love of Krishna and the female Gopis. You must also know this is just one part of the love. In India, the same love is depicted in other forms too. Like child to a mother or a friend to frien etc. In vaishnav faith 6 types of such love is observed.In Indian religion one is considered the soul of those who have a body like teh Gopis ( Jivatma) with the eternal soul, Krishna (Paramatma- in Arabic Allah).
c. Mahadev ( who roams on streets etc! commented by one Muslim obviusly) has a too big philosophy. He represnts a atotal detached and a form of destuction (of the negative aspects) of all the aspects of these creation. Every single aspect of his feature are related with a high level of philosophy.

This chat room is too small to explain the greatness of Hinduism.Another simple comparison you must rmeber that in Islam it is clearly sad there is no place for the "sinners"! While all of them will cry and call the other too take them to heavan but they will be left to doom ( Muslims will know the concept of left hand, right hand and in front of Allah in Quran). But in hindu religion it is always considered that no one is a sinner but one who has done an error and God will forgive him and purify him too.

I feel the Muslims in India should try to learn about the true meaning of Hinduism (which is just not a religion and code of conduct!) but much more than that. Then they themselves decide that it is just reaching the same goal- Allah in Arabic, Khuda in Parsi and Bhagwan in India. That can reach the same place, but by the path which was their own. their forefathers were forced to embrace the alien way of worshipping . It is a way of expandin Arab imperialism. There are very many social evils and the Muslims  as well as Hindus should understand the true spirit of the Sanatan Dharma and build a better India (naturally Silchar).
Amar Maat Bujlai Nirebo.  
 
daimond eye
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/11/02 at 02:11:54 »		   
Well moe than 30 percent of Engineers and Scientists in Microsoft ,Intel ,GE are Indians(Hindus).
Hindus and Jews are respected all over the owrld for their Brain.
The scientific accomplishment of India in space,defence is well known by every one.
Indians(Hindus) have defeated Pakistan in three wars ,captured 90,000 pigs during 1971 war,but left them
because we are too kind.Narendra Modi should have been in charge of the Indian Army in 1971.
Give some data about the brain of Muslims.But Dont mention Sepetember 11.  
 
golden eye
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/13/02 at 05:14:31 »		   
kalyanji.. its not fare to call me a muslim.. do u think those fools have brains to write all this...
u r dealing with a motivated young manipuri christti.. got it? and u cant treat us like u treat muslims.. ok.. hum tumhare baap ke baap he.

peace be on u PIGS  
 
dont be clever
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/13/02 at 07:47:50 »		   
Dont try to provoke Hindus against Christianity by such foolish and irresponsible statements.your IP address can be easily tracked and legal action taken
against you ,Mr Golden Eye.
 
 
rational
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/14/02 at 03:06:45 »		   

[quote author=dont be clever link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=105#112 date=06/13/02 at 07:47:50]
Dont try to provoke Hindus against Christianity by such foolish and irresponsible statements.your IP address can be easily tracked and legal action taken
against you ,Mr Golden Eye.

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"Dont be clever", Why is such hypocracy? If you are always using this messageboard to provoke people and use abusive language against people, how can you expect any third party to remain silent?

If you threaten 'Golden eye' with legal action, I think every abusive message in this message board can be singled out and legal action taken against every abusive posting.

Indian law is Impartial to all irresrective of caste creed and religion. If golden eye is guilty here, all other people using this message board in the similar way, is also guilty.

Don't try to be too much clever, mr "Don't be clever".  
 
golden eye
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/14/02 at 03:53:10 »		   
Holy mother of mine!! People are talking of "legal actions" on me. poor me!!  What have i done?? just uncovering the nakedness of a junkyard of a religion, while the knights of that religion were freely bashing other sects.

Well dear, why are you taking the trouble of tracing this IP address and stuff. You will be running round net cafes all over silchar, shillong, guahati, bangalore... If you are so much interested in me then you rather ask me politly and i will give you my street address and you can come over and have a nice chat over a warm cup of coffee but if in the process you make me wild then you wont be left with any front teeth to have coffee again.

and as far as provokation is concerned, i dont have to tell anything. Everyone knows (including you) that yours is an INSULT to theology and a JUNKYARD of a ...    

and rational, you are right in pointing out that there should be equality in everything, be it in such (i m accepting myself) unworthy things. but this is the only way according to me that can help stop the problem.  
 
kalyan
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/14/02 at 15:47:10 »		   
This is our bad luck that people like "golden Eye" whose very root lies in the culture and history of this country has so much resentment in him against the sanatan hindu dharma. In ancient India, there was a noble way of settling the questions of religious superiority. it was called "TARKA YUDHYA" - "debate" and that without any fighting or without any abuse. Can we not use that old tradition here too? I am sure people like "golden eye" who has passions and acting on emotions, if rightly convinced can accept the merits and demerits of the two religions- The  sanatan hindu dharma and the Muslim religion and the relevance or even the necessity of  muslim religion in India! I can defend the root of many of the many systems like caste system which was ideal at one stage of the civilization but now a social evil. It is necessary that the same caste system be set in the true perspective of todays society. If people like "GOLDEN EYE" want to make Silchar and India ultimatelythe best place to live in, i invite you to come out of the cocoon of any religious mindset and start here to build an India.How do you think the many thousand years of Indian religion (total- includes all religions including contributions from Muslims, christians together ) can be strengthened by enriching it.It is necessary for you to suggest how can you Indianise and contribute the best of your religions (be it Muslim or christianity or any other) to amalgamate into and develope a minstream India culture. Let all of us know all the best things your religion has to offer to this country and its religion /culture.
I am not challenging you any way but we want to know what positive contributions can your religion give to india? It is obvious you don't believe in any thing of Hinduism. I want to tell you that whatever good is there in Muslim religion is existing in Hinduism for many centuries in India. If you want that to be implemented in India , I am sure you and any one can take that initiative. if the source can be found in Indian religion , it will be much easier to implement. When I say "good" I mean any thing that does good for humanity as whole, the earth and the universe. Let us hear from you ? to give it a good start why don't you take guidance from your religious leaders also?
Goodluck  
 
imbochar jyatha
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/14/02 at 19:41:18 »		   
Hi Golden Eye,

Don't try to settle all scores my brute power( brealin jaws, et al). Muslims are ( hindus no doubt) possesing more brain than you, so you are showing up your brawns. Tumi baba hidol khao, ar imbocha kahini shuno, ijaat gombhir alochona-t aiyo na re bo!!!!  ita tumar matha bai di haraito nai...

tumar jyatha  
 
imbochar jyatha
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/14/02 at 19:45:52 »		   

sorry for the typo errors in the previous message dudes.

Hi Golden Eye,

Don't try to settle all scores by brute power( breakin' jaws, et al). Muslims are ( hindus no doubt) possesing more brain than you, so you are showing up your brawns. Tumi baba hidol khao, ar imbocha kahini shuno, ijaat gombhir alochona-t aiyo na re bo!!!!  ita tumar matha bai di haraito nai...
amar uprey jodi raag mitaitey lagey, tey nijo-r pukti-t tinkhan lath mari diyo..
tumar jyatha  
 
tumrar dada
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/17/02 at 09:20:53 »		   
Kita ba hokole jhogra kor rae.ino to onyo kuno kothao hoitou paare na.ei refujee ita re laath mari desh taki bair korar upae bair koriar darao.aar joto imbochar gusti aamrar Silchar re jalaiya khaira ita re bandi baandi barak o palao.cinaimu amrar khaislot ubhao.joto refujee aasla Shillong, Guwahati aar baki shob stte o ekhon ita shob aai gesoin Silcharo.Ekhon pa dibar jaaga paawa jae na re ba.Joto Silchar premi aso shob ekotrito hou ,itaare bair korte laagbo.
tumrar dada  
 
Amitava Sanyal.
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/18/02 at 07:20:21 »		   
The author seems to be finding himself in identity crisis. Instead of pulling legs of others and being envious about people from bangladesh he may concentrate in developing his own skills and think positively. If need be he must learn the art of accepting defeats.

Ironically I hail from Kolkata and not a sylheti. But I have lived in different places in assam and have lot of friends there including assamese and sylhetis too. Please accept the fact that sylhetis have an extra amount of gray matter in their brain and so the are ahead in every part of life in comparison to their other bengali speaking counterparts.There is no point in wasting time by calling the refugees as bangladeshi because they are refused by the state of bangladesh simply because of the fact that they are hindus irrespective of whatever local dialect the speak.

I have taken my engg education from silchar way back in late eighties and hence I have a soft corner for that place.Accidentally I have found this website with lot of joy and expectation but the first topic in maha adda has brought me down.

The author must realise that the persons being forced to leave bangladesh are also son/daughter of their land and the same thing could have happened in India as well. But we always show restrain and do not like to be arrogant. Bangladesh is the creation of all bengali speaking muslims because they wanted to allienate them from India and wished to have their own land. Now when they have it it becomes mandatory for all bengali muslims to cross over as their hindu counterparts are doing.

India has never wanted that because unlike muslims we respect other religion. Please feel for the people who were forced to leave their own land for vested interest of others and then you will stop discussing on this topic.All the best & good luck.




[quote author=silchari_blood link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=0#0 date=12/22/01 at 06:51:38]
>:( 50 or lets say some more years back Silchar was not the same silchar. Then we were the original silcharis consisting of Muslims and Original Nath & dumshara Hindus. There was much peace and brotherhood between us. We respected each others feelings and religion. But now the case is different. From Years Bangladeshi Hindu refugees have been pouring in silchar and settling here with no obstruction from naths or muslims(who infact didnt minded, not considering the long term consequences we are facing now). They bought lands and settled among us and in crucial locations (consisting of the town now - link road and many others are heavens of refugees). Every year there are more pouring-in in search of job and better living conditions. Hence changing the Demography of Barak Valley. This people have no affinity for assam - our very own state. They have deeper respect for Calcutta and love to speak kelu(even if they cannot). This bangladeshis from the western side bengal pretend to be more superior and dispise the original hindus here and the funniest and most ironic matter is that they call our Muslims brothers as "bangals" (whereas they are themselves called so in West Bengal). They worship heros like tagore, bose and likes while our own local ones(such as Moinul haque Chowdury) are neglected (look at most of the street names nowadays).
This "Refugees" have cancerized our society and taking away our right. Go to most of the offices today - most of the low level staffs are this "Refugees". Is there a single Nath or Muslim posted? We DONT EVEN GET THE OPPORTUNITY.
 
WELL, We have forgiven them so long but now they have gone to their extremes. >:( This "Refugees" are bring in the Feeling of communalism within us. To divide us and watch the Fun. Bring elements like VHP and RSS which never ever existed in Assam before. We have seen places(like UP,Gujarat etc) where this communal elements(who are themselves Refugees either from Pakistan or bangladesh) have destroyed the harmony and brotherhood among native Muslims and Hindus.
This "Refugees" Should have been kicked out of Silchar long back but our ancestors have made the mistake by taking them as friends. We should now Accomplish The TASK UNDONE, viz. Kick this "REFUGEES" back To thier burrows in Bangladesh!!  >:(      

Join The BLOOD - The TRUE SICHARI BLOOD :D
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non-silchari-1
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 06/22/02 at 21:28:09 »		   
Wanted to point out a few facts :
1) There are many good human beings who are Muslims (might even be the majority of Muslims) but they do NOT consitute the visible face of the Muslims. I will call the visible Muslims - whatelse but "visible Muslims" !!
2) The Hindus have been and are facing persecution in Bangladesh.
3) The Bangladeshi Government does not think protecting it's citizens as one of it's duties.
4) There are people who think it's OK that the Bangladesh Government is allowing it's citizens to become refugees because of their religion. They feel that these guys should stay back and fight. One wonders what their means should be : suicide bombing ?
5) Many "visible" Muslims find it hard to understand why Hindus just cannot be as barbaric as them.
6) Whereever Muslims are in a majority, non-Muslims have a tough time. But "visible" Muslims expect kind and "secular" treatment when they are in a minority.
7) Indian Hindus have seen it first hand what happens to them when they become a minority in a Muslim dominated area. But some people are still trying to pass the arguement that it's OK if the Muslim population keeps growing and Hindus would be treated fairly by the Muslims.
8) "visible" Muslims have a standard response when confronted with their misdeeds : DENIAL. They have the ability to deny everything. I think Islam might be the only religion which does not consider lying a bad thing.
9) "visible" Muslims blame everybody else for for everything. They never think it's worth taking some time to look inwards and blame themselves sometimes.
10) That such a large section of Bangladeshi Hindus are in India points to the fact that all is not OK in Bangladesh.
11) Silchari Hindus would be naive (at their own peril) to think that a Islamic conference in Haflong is OK and the RSS is bad.
12) There is a HUGE difference between economic refugees and political refugees (whose lives are at stake). If the Bangladeshi Hindus came to India as economic refugees, India should have treated them differently. But India has an obligation to political refugees, especially if they are Hindus, because India is the only place where they should not be presecuted on religious lines. If the Bangladeshi Muslims came to India as political refugees, they would have got different treatment. But they are coming in as economic refugees and this has all the ingredients for the creation of another avoidable regional flashpoint.  
 
u fucker
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/23/02 at 06:58:50 »		   
hey who the son of a bitch is that who have posted that bloody rubish idea on the net. hey u asshole i am telling better clear ur mind other wise we will clear u from this earth.
u fucking bitch its a warning.next time any sucking idea jusr suck in ur mind othere u will be ....................
u bloody mother fucker.better ..........
  
 
Rajendra
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/25/02 at 04:32:19 »		   
Well, 'u f*****' dont get angry at the truth pointed out by non-silchari-1.
Meanwhile I would also like to ask you some questions?
1)Did'nt your ISI bosses(or your Madrasa teacher or Pig) teach you about eat Islam,see Islam,Pis Islam,
Sh*t Islam.Because posting messages to Internet is also not true Islam.Because
Internet was not invented or discovered by your ladu Bhai.It is a western product
with lot of Inputs from Indian(Hindu) Engineers and Scientist.

  
 
lovely ideas
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/25/02 at 16:29:31 »		   

[quote author=u fucker link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=120#121 date=06/23/02 at 06:58:50]
hey who the son of a bitch is that who have posted that bloody rubish idea on the net. hey u asshole i am telling better clear ur mind other wise we will clear u from this earth.
u fucking bitch its a warning.next time any sucking idea jusr suck in ur mind othere u will be ....................
u bloody mother fucker.better ..........

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yeah, thats a lovely message, and u r showing ur filthy blood by writing like this.  But a request to the admin, please dont encourage messages with rotten language like this.  THis person certainly doesnt belong to a decent family.Cant he put forward his ideas in a decent manner? This is not a place for shouting out names.  
 
SPICE IT UP
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WHO IS A REFUGEE????  
«on: 06/26/02 at 05:04:56 »		   
Well friends, after all the arguments can one come forward and define who is Bangladeshi refugee? True, our original home was in a place which is now part of bangladesh but that doesnot make us bangladeshi. Our forefathers were Indian and so are we, because all this land mass was under India.
And talking about the original inhabitants of silchar, muslims are not the sons of the soil in any part of the Indian subcontinent. Muslims came from outside and their whole culture (if one can say so!) is totally alien to the Indian idea about religion. The fundamental rule governing Islam is intolerance towards other religions. And they create problems, even among themselves, wherever they live, take for example, Chechnya, Bosnia, China, Iraq-Iran, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, India and the list is endless. So who is at fault?? If a particular sect cannot live peacefully with any of its neighbours, then nobody has to guess who is at fault.  
 
babla
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/26/02 at 05:22:39 »		   
Are u people not tired of this? I am getting sick and tired of this topic going on and on. U people need to get a life!

  
 
tomrar dada
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/26/02 at 09:40:48 »		   
Hey you Babla !
  Just shut up and f**k off.If you dont like anything just get lost  
 
guest
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/27/02 at 13:44:43 »		   
thanks for some logical and fact based information on Bangladeshi Hindus. I would like you whoever has some sympathy with those small hapless minority hindu group living now in Banglesh , to visit the website  www.mayerdak.com and see for yourself the kind of helpless situation in which those people are.
 I am not telling that there are not sypathetic Muslims. But overall , no of fundamentalist muslims who are solely inspired by the incetives of those mulla's simply outnumber the good one.  And fellow for good this sytem needs a change..
regards.  
 
non-silchari-1
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 06/27/02 at 23:15:19 »		   
A babaric response - fed by festering hatred carefully being nurthered within our own country !! One never hear these people out in the streets - they are all waiting there - saving their skins and biding their time -- in our midst.

The truth will never go away - no matter how hard you curse it !!!

---the Hindu way of life may be weak and uncharisamatic - but God help us from people whose fundemental beleifs include killing people who don't subscribe to their views ---

there is no way we can have a progressive and dynamic India if we have people who will not let others go in peace and who are only motivated by hatred.

The truth about Islam in South Asia is that it has converted some of it's followers to barbarism and the rest to pasive bystanders who tacitly approve of the actions of the rest.
Their fundemental method is intimidation - that's exactly the same method that the Christian missionaries have taught the tribals in the North East. They may not kill you but they would ensure that you do not get a night's restful sleep.

The most interesting piece in this environment is that the average person is expected to have an ostrich attitude. Many Hindus also would like it to remain that way. Any one pointing out the truth and injustice of it all is tainted a communal or rabble rouser.

The most important issue that the Hindus in Eastern India have to understand is that if they don't paint crime, injustice and intimiation to be what they are and don't grapple with ways to confront them - they would be swallowed whole by these ! There can be no peace for the Ostrich head !!!  
 
non-silchari-2
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 06/28/02 at 02:22:25 »		   

[quote author=non-silchari-1 link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=120#128 date=06/27/02 at 23:15:19]
The truth will never go away - no matter how hard you curse it !!!

---the Hindu way of life may be weak and uncharisamatic - but God help us from people whose fundemental beleifs include killing people who don't subscribe to their views ---

[/quote]

Right.. The truth will never go away - no matter how hard you curse it !!!

There is no difference in Muslim and Hindu Fundamentalist. Jamat, Bajrang Dal, Vhp, Rss are all same. What jamat is doing in Bangladesh is same as what vhp, bajrang are doing here.  

God help us from people [b] (both Hindu and Muslim Fundamentalist) [/b] whose fundemental beliefs include killing people who don't subscribe to their views

[quote author=non-silchari-1 link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=120#128 date=06/27/02 at 23:15:19]

The truth about Islam in South Asia is that it has converted some of it's followers to barbarism and the rest to pasive bystanders who tacitly approve of the actions of the rest.
Their fundemental method is intimidation - that's exactly the same method that the Christian missionaries have taught the tribals in the North East. They may not kill you but they would ensure that you do not get a night's restful sleep.

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When so vigilant bajrangis and vhp-ians are there how can other religion dare to open their mouth.

Burn few more people like Graham Staines, everyone would be silent. Nobody will dare to protest. All fair in the name of religion..!! right ??

Court and Law will not dare to raise any objection. vhp-ians declared few days ago that they will not listen to courts verdict with respect to popular beliefs and demand like Ram Janmabhoomi. Some days after, killing people from other religion will become a popular demand and bajrangis will publicly accolade those who will fulfill this mission.

" Yeh andar ki baat hai, Police haamare saath hai" was the war cry in Gujrat, bajrangis and vhp-ians aim will be to accomplish this accross the whole country.

[quote author=non-silchari-1 link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=120#128 date=06/27/02 at 23:15:19]
The most important issue that the Hindus in Eastern India have to understand is that if they don't paint crime, injustice and intimiation to be what they are and don't grapple with ways to confront them - they would be swallowed whole by these ! There can be no peace for the Ostrich head !!!

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Don't worry.. do you think there is dearth of pravin togadia, maya kodnani or asok singhal in eastern india ?? intellectual people like u will show the way. To execute your orders there will be some henchman like dara singh always ready to burn missionaries and his small childrens alive, some rapists to eat flesh of women, millions of  hammer and trishul waving mob to burn and hack people to death. Intellectuals like you will just sit in your drawing room and execute orders.

This will be the society in future, ruled by vhp, jamat, muslim tigers, bajrang dal, rss  and all types of fundamentalist organization possible. People will eat religion, sleep religion, drink religion.  
 
True Native
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/28/02 at 13:31:52 »		   
Hi all,
It's true that there has been a lot of Bangladeshi infiltration in Silchar since long time. The worse part of it is that they do not consider Silchar as their own land in regards to duties and development but only consider their rights and self recognition. United States is also a mix culture and a habitat of worldwide nationals but they all pledge to develop the nation consider it to be their own. Since I am a true Silcharite, I feel the plight of being dominated by refugees or foreigners. However, on the other hand I welcome all who love Silchar and take it to be own. Let us all build Silchar a wonder of the world.
True Native    
 
for non-silchari-2
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 06/29/02 at 00:41:09 »		   
Well RSS,bajrang Dal,VHP has come up because of atroicities  and injustice commited on Hindus for the last 1000 years.
Other wise no one would have cared them.  
 
SPICE IT UP
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SILCHAR AND BARAK VALLEY HIJACKED BY MUSLIMS  
«on: 07/01/02 at 02:13:38 »		   
The topography of the region is ever changing. Today Muslims are majority in both Karmganj and Hailakandi districts. And Cachar is next on their agenda. One day will come when we will be minority in our own homeland. We have to act fast and kick those bastards out of India.  
 
Another silchari
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 07/01/02 at 07:49:12 »		   
Well,
The problem here is our hypocrits are more concerned about protecting their vote banks in Gujarat.
As far as Silchar is concerned ths news is music to their ears.
Because their seats are tied to the votes of the Bangladeshi Muslims.  
 
Tito1071
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 07/13/02 at 01:26:43 »		   
What ever U R.....shilchari_blood or fucking blood....I have never read such a disgusting article.How could U bost of your polluted NAZI's blood????When all over in the world people runnig after peace and here U R trying to be next version of
Hitlar?!!! very funny
Nor I'm a refugee or living in silchar.I was just surfing the net
and found this page and really surprised after reading your
article.A social insect like U can never hope for social peace, just can make trouble and racism......  
 
another non silcharite
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 07/17/02 at 04:10:07 »		   
i just happened to surf this site and came across this article.
it was one gem of a bullshit topic..
hey man stop throwing filth and do something positive for yourself,  
 
Silchari123
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 07/17/02 at 06:37:13 »		   
??? u r the most uneducated ASSHOLE i have ever heard of. Dont be a CUPAMANDUK (Frog who lives in a well and thinks that is the whole world). I dont know how much u know about indian history or philosophy but i doubt u have ever been to school ?? Dont Speak RUBBISH if u dont even know the ABCD about the topic. Dont try to be an intelectual like ATEL BENGALIS from calcutta who writes something out of the path and thinks they have done something great for the mankind where as they SUCKS!! So stop acting a HERO and try to realy do something for SILCHAR.  
 
Rational
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 07/17/02 at 08:01:24 »		   

[quote author=Silchari123 link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=135#136 date=07/17/02 at 06:37:13]
??? u r the most uneducated ASSHOLE i have ever heard of. Dont be a CUPAMANDUK (Frog who lives in a well and thinks that is the whole world). I dont know how much u know about indian history or philosophy but i doubt u have ever been to school ?? Dont Speak RUBBISH if u dont even know the ABCD about the topic. Dont try to be an intelectual like ATEL BENGALIS from calcutta who writes something out of the path and thinks they have done something great for the mankind where as they SUCKS!! So stop acting a HERO and try to realy do something for SILCHAR.
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Ha Ha.. Mr another Non silcharite.. You did the mistake of crossing the path of some specimen whose vested interest is to keep hate messages alive here.

Just look at the reaction of Mr 123!!! His intolerent nature and language shows his class. So no comments from me here regarding schooling and education.. ;). And he talks about Indian History and Philosophy, May I ask him which version of Indian History and Philosophy he follows, is it the Latest Tampered Version ??  ;D ;D

For the last few weeks MahaAdda was a fantastic place to be with, just because People were bringing several interesting and Healthy Topics in Maha Adda and the " Hate Merchants " did not get the chance to throw mud here. Let us ignore all such Rubbish Threads and Make Maha Adda a Wonderful experiance.  
 
ha ha ha
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 07/30/02 at 08:16:50 »		   
well......now we have another intellectual person..whos going to rescue us from this misery with his ample knowledge. now the prob is, where are the intellectual talks going on in this site? do help us , sir.... the only thing i know is, silchar ( why only silchar, the neighbouring areas too) is indeed being hijacked by b'deshis refugees, and i know that from personal experiences, though i doubt as to whether u have any proof that they b'deshis are not hijacking.  
 
An aboriginal
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 08/24/02 at 01:53:20 »		   
Cant we utilise our energy for the batterment of SILCHAR ? It is certain that you can not kick out -out sider by venting steam in this message board or violence. Better we co operate each other and make SILCHAR a beutiful city - 8)another America 8)  
 
tuxedo
tuxedo
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 08/26/02 at 03:22:24 »		   
Ek solution dei, Biman Bangladesh or koyta palane chintai kori lao aar kita.Ke ke raji accho? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  
 
Another Aboroginal
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 08/28/02 at 00:25:38 »		   
It seems now a days that the same Rakhals(Bengali Muslims), who were brought by our Cachari King for cultivation purpose from erstwhile East bengal around 150 years back,  has started speaking in such a way as if they are the Original People of Silchar and the Hindu Bengalis are Refugees.

Let me clarify that we have no problems as of now with our Rakhals or Educated and Intelligent Bengali Hindus for whom Silchar has developed so much.
Let everyone stay peacefully here and try to imporve the township.
Please close this topic.  
 
Swami Jaunanda
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 08/28/02 at 02:49:10 »		   
Halar Bhai nijer namor  spelling dekh ;D ;D ;D  
 
Imam Abdulananda
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 08/28/02 at 23:35:59 »		   
Dont worry, All Swami's writing in silchar.com are katlus.And all Imams in silchar.com are non-katlus like me  
 
mita
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 09/06/02 at 10:31:13 »		   

I remember the evil spirited people which drove and still are driving the innocent Hindus from their ancestral homes from Bangladesh are root cause of all the problems in India. So why don't you "sick person " think and try to cut the throat of this problem creator in Bangladesh instead of sitting and gossiping OR   you migrate to Pakistan as we know "Hindu for Hindustan"  "Muslim for Pakistan" there no problem as such will chase you, isn't it? Give peace and have peace not act like an innocent pet.  
 
guest
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Re: Silchar hijacked by  
«on: 09/08/02 at 00:57:44 »		   

[quote author=mita link=board=0011&num=1009025498&start=135#144 date=09/06/02 at 10:31:13]

I remember the evil spirited people which drove and still are driving the innocent Hindus from their ancestral homes from Bangladesh are root cause of all the problems in India. So why don't you "sick person " think and try to cut the throat of this problem creator in Bangladesh instead of sitting and gossiping OR   you migrate to Pakistan as we know "Hindu for Hindustan"  "Muslim for Pakistan" there no problem as such will chase you, isn't it? Give peace and have peace not act like an innocent pet.
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There will be no peace in this country while psychopaths and people with dirty mind and narrow vision like you exist.  
 
silcharipua
silcharipua
Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 09/10/02 at 01:43:54 »		   
Ha Ha  ;D.Now the miyabhais hold us responsible for their bad state. Hindu refugees are causing muslims lose jobs in govt offices.They call the muslims bangals. :P...Silchar_blood should do well to remember that it was the muslims of Bangladesh who drove the hindus out of East Bengal.I advise him to pack his bags and migrate to Sonar Bangla ;D.He will get govt jobs there.India and Silchar is for Hindus,and Hindu refugees have never forgotten their roots.We still speak in the Sylheti language and never refer to other refugees as bangals >:(.I think that if muslims do not get gove jobs it's because they do not qualify for one.They are always on the lookout for easy money which they get through smuggling ,robbery,thievery and other anti social activities.They also breed like pigs.  
 
Observer !
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Re: Silchar hijacked by "Bangladeshi REFUGEES"  
«on: 09/16/02 at 16:03:58 »		   
Hey silcharipua :)......Thanks for summing up the debate ;)….hope everybody had ample opportunity to express their thoughts  ;D!!!!

May I invite silchari_blood to come up with an “INNOVATIVE” topic( to through his tantrums on) ;), well, if he is still around and not gone for boold transfusion  :o!!

Cheers !!  
 
 
 

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