REC Silchar Crisis

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Topic: REC - Silchar Crisis

REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/04/02 at 08:31:17 »

This is regarding REC Silchar crisis,
the links below are old… can anyone provide some latest info ?
http://in.news.yahoo.com/011216/58/1b5ht.html
http://www.assamtribune.com/dec2101/at04.html

What is alarming is, UGC may now stop sending grants and AICTE may de-recognize the degree. AICTE are sick of everything, for years they have seen the money they have been sending, being channeled away as the convenience of a few individuals, and now a campaign to remove someone who is setting things right.

Although whatever degree we the Ex-Rexians from RECS have, may not be altered by this or will it???, but a
de-recognition will certainly bring disgrace to our career and will doom those already studying or looking for a job/immigration etc with that.

Corruption in all forms was prevalent in REC Silchar for a long time but nobody dared to protest that and now the CBI has found prima facie evidence of embezzlement of Rs 2 crore funds by Staffs of the Silchar Regional Engineering College.

Why alone financial Scam ? let there be a CBI enquiry against those egotist and sadist RecS teachers for the gross negligence of academic duties, for the crime of playing with the career of students, for making this Rec as one of the least preffered Rec. I am certain only a very few will come scot-free.

Academic Environment in Rec Silchar was never a pleasure for students... How can it be ? when one's career is at the mercy of his teacher. A teacher in RecS can even make a student appear the same paper again and again to settle a personal issue however insignificant it might be. Academic interest was the lowest priority for majority of RecS teachers. They had always been in their sadistic best by threatening the career of students. They had been successful only in giving a different meaning to Engineering Studies.

How many RecS teacher do you think had seriously thought about improving the academic scenario? forget about overall career development. What value do the students add to their career by simply mugging up the class notes and displaying their retention skills in semester exams and class tests ? Even if someone manages to secure excellent grades, he/she is uncertain to be in1% of lucky campus recruits.

What is the percentage of RecS student clearing GATE or CAT/MAT or any national level exam..? any rexian who clears such exams always did that on his own merit and interest. There is actually no academic or competitive environment in Recs, Only thing that exists is sessionals and cramming for semester exams. Some students try to make a difference.. but it is impossible to do so without the active participation of teachers.

Let there be a mass movement against those teachers who had succeeded over years in giving this institution a bad name.

EX_REXIAN
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/10/02 at 07:49:28 »

These idiot teachers should have been screwed up long time back,they have no business in conitnuing their current job.

Guest Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/16/02 at 00:28:01 »

Dear Friends,

Do you have any latest info on the Present status of REC Silchar ?

Has the Strike ended ?

Please update us with any latest information on this.

Thanks

Guest
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/24/02 at 00:44:13 »

It appears that RECS is heading towards still cloudy situations. The ongoing teachers and non-teaching staffs' strike is withdrawn in view of the semester exams. However, principal has made some adhoc appointments for exam duties and the striking teachers are not asked for the exam duties.
The enquiry committee is likely to visit RECS in the first week of Feb to enquire into the matters of RECS. Lets see what comes out of it.

Guest Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/25/02 at 07:39:27 »

Thanks for updating us..

Let Truth Truimph in the end.

Hope those culprits and educational terrorists be eliminated from REC soil after the enquiry. For years, nobody dared to raise their voice against the misdeed of the authorities. Hope this enquiry will reveal how a band of teachers had talibanised REC education for years, how they had grossly misused the resources and funds for years and succeded in making this institute one of the least preffered REC.

We would be looking forward for future updates.

Raj1
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/25/02 at 23:38:37 »

You sure are a very angry man. But still using words like "talibanised " or "educational terrorists " (new addition to oxford dictionary!) sound kind of funny. May be you are watching too much TV.

Guest Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/28/02 at 23:13:53 »

Right..!!! My blood boils in anger whenever I hear about the atrocities of those people....

These peoples have abused power to the best of their sadistic capability and succeeded in traumatizing the students to perceive a different meaning for engineering studies.

I could not find a better word than educational terrorist to express my feelings...

Guest
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/29/02 at 04:05:57 »

It is right that the people who were responsible to develop the infrastructures needed initially for the proper functioning of a technical college did not do their jobs. Whoever sat on the chair as authority gave hardly any thinking in development of the college. They were busy in other things by the time managing their tenure of three year periods somehow. Development of any department depends very much on the person who headed the department initially and he has to set an example to his juniors(teachers). Because once a deptt. (even any organization) is developed without a proper base it is bound to collapse. Not only that this college earns a sore feeling of the state govt. that does not like it to grow. Otherwise, when other technical colleges in Assam get their salaries regularly, fund for RECS (50% only) salaries from state govt. is not released to the tune of more than 10 crores over the years. And more pathetic is that RECS authorities kept on paying salaries diverting development funds sent from central govt. depriving the developmental activities of the college. Now, I feel, these things can not be allowed to contonue indefinitely. Also, I feel, it will be unwise on our part to express that badly against teaching communities. Otherwise, that may itself expose our bad side. I really agree that a self feeling towards the college is lacking very much. We should feel that we belong to this college and the college belongs to us. There are lot of problems for this college because the root cause of every thing is the monitory problems( because of state govt.). But that does not alienate our responsibility to develop it. This is possible only when all of us want it. Be it that our seniors didn't do their jobs. what is wrong in starting a revolution by the juniors.

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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/29/02 at 04:33:45 »

Whatever it may be,state Govt. or not,those idiot teachers and staff should be taught a lesson,we Rexians should extent full support to the current prinicpal to cleanse the campus of this rotten elements

Guest Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/29/02 at 06:01:53 »

Dear guest,

Do you agree with the fact that the disruption of academic activities in the Regional Engineering College (REC) at Silchar for the last few months following an agitation launched by the teachers and non-teaching employees of the college against the Principal is greatly detrimental to the interest of the 800-odd students pursuing their studies there ?

Do you know that because of this month long strike UGC may now stop sending grants and AICTE may de-recognize the degree. And the HRD Ministry has reportedly threatened to close down the institution if things went from bad to worse.

Do you know that The college was in the process of being promoted to a deemed university, but the teachers stike has now threatened the college with a de-recognition.

Do you believe in the fact that there are allegations against a section of teachers and employees functioning at their own whims and fancies, thereby seriously violating the academic atmosphere in the campus.

Do you know that for years, the Teaching staff who were good, and too high to get into politics, and were competent, were frustrated of the scenario, have resigned and left. A few competent staff remaining may leave too.

Do you know that the HRD Ministry has extended full support to the Principal's actions and has also cleared him of the allegations made by the teachers and employees against him.

You are right dear Guest, that the root cause of every thing is the monitory problems!!! and I hope you know that CBI unearthed a Rs 2 crore scam involving purchases and other irregularities in the college by the Staffs of REC over the years.

And if Principal Virk was clamping down on such irregularities he should receive the support of all sections who have the good of the college at heart.

For years, those educational terrorists have taken the students into ransom by pointing sessional guns. Dare to go against them, you can be in a infinite loop of your semester paper which may eventually crash your career.

All old stories... the tradition continues...
Once you get out of the college.. who cares about those frustrated souls.

But now it is high time to raise your voice against these unholy practices. You can at least save some innocent soul's career from getting molested and this may the right time when the media focus is bound to get intense on REC to let the world be aware of these educational terrorists. I am sure a round or two of investigative journalism will expose the miscreants and save our institute

I end here with a hope that at least few more souls will break their silence and spearhead this movement.

Raj1
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/30/02 at 22:31:49 »

Hello guys!
It was interesting to read your articles. But some of you are venting lot of anger. I know the teachers are not exactly angels but not everybody is bad. You will come across such characters in other colleges too. May be REC-Sil has more than its fair share. What the campus lacks is an academic environment. The students are a very insecured and frustrated lot.

Nilanjan
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/31/02 at 09:05:57 »

Raj1,

Yes, all teachers are not bad there.. there are exception to everything as you know.

You come to study in REC after qualifying a tough entrance test, you leave your home and family far back and join the hostel life. You are in the best of your spirits then, till you realize that surviving in one of the remotest corner of country is not an easy job. Lack of academic environment, campus recruitment facility, standard of living in hostels etc will slowly make you insecure and frustrated. You fear your teachers as you know that your careers are at their mercy. You have ample example in front of you on how your seniors or batchmates career is ruined because they were in the teachers bad book for any silly reasons. You know sessionals are important, as they constitute half of your total marks. And Your teachers know that too !!

And 4 years after, you are struggling in Bangalore, Calcutta or Delhi.. dying to find a job, You don't bother whether they justify your qualification or not.

But once you strike, nobody can stop you. You are ready to prove yourself in the professional world and chances are highly likely that you will be successful. You have seen the worst at REC, now nobody can stop you.

Years later, you are busy with your professional life and slowly forget how unfairly you were treated at REC. Your only gains from there are your friends who are now scattered all over the globe and will give you the warmest of reception when you meet.

Suddenly, you hear, that your college is under seize.. Teachers there are in a month long strike and donot bother to listen to any plea, inspite of repeated request from all fronts they are adament. You are sad and angry to hear that because of their strike your college may be closed down and the degree may be derecognized. The old flame inside you burns again when you can feel the plight of students studying there. You want to Shout and tell those agitators.. 'Stop playing with the careers of those innocent students'

Raj1, I am sure that the CBI enquiry will expose many of the agitators motive behind this illegal strike.

All the best
An Ex-Rexian

Smiley
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/31/02 at 14:25:51 »

The problem in RECS is just one of the example of how the "INDIAN"
mentality works. RECS is demonstrating the culmination and the IITs
are demonstrating how tough it is to leave what we call Indian behind
us even if it is bad. Mind you they have done a commendable job, given
our nature to assemble around rot. If the people in IITs had been born
in California and had assembled in all kinds of UC*, California would have
seen an order of magnitude increase in its intellectual prosperity. But,
alas, we as we are cursed to be Indians with an Indian genome meshed
within us cannot move at that rate of progress which would have
been possible otherwise with the kind of electricity seething within our
"indian" grey cells.
For example, how many of us Indians have worked on OpenBSD? What
is it good for? (OK, simpler -- what is OpenBSD??!!!). Now do you
understand what is the Indian mentality I am talking about.
Another one, I saw all kinds of countries having mirrors for FreeBSD ISO
image downloads, even Saudi Arabia, not India??!!!!
Oh what rot am I speaking, everybody has to make careers, publish
at least 20 articles in refereed journals. (baabon, your friend has 40,
you stupid fellow, with your miserable 18, how do you expect to make
an academic career), or I failed 3 years in CAT, don't worry I will
attempt for 4 more years, or if I don't get into IIT, I am doomed (and
you truly are in India), or what if I have 10 backlogs, I am sure to go
through IAS. Yes yes yes generation z, this is about you. Forget the
fscking strike, take a look at yourself. Do you see why the white
skinned fellow said India was the white man's burden. Cause we
are uneducated, yes I say boldy I am uneducated and being
educated by the free spirit (the white man if you may say, but there
are black and yellow and a tiny number of free brownies there also).
The free spirit wanders around its passion knowing not what else
matters (mostly, but thats good enough). And to him/her, passion is
life. The Indians are just too busy with their next day's bread that
they have forgotten what is life worth for. And what you see in RECS
is just something natural -- This is a NATIONAL DISEASE. The sad part
is majority don't see it and those who have the ability don't
recognise it.
Look at the richest minority in the U.S.-- naturally Indians -- too busy
filling their purse, and where are Indians when it comes to Nobel --
the bloody thing is rigged for the white man. Is it, is it rigged for the
yellow man??!! Oh so it is rigged for the brown man, because they hate
the brown colour. --What nonsense, our country is poor, oh yes, the
indians in America show we are born morons, don't they.

India can never rise till we us, yes we the ants live freely. and get out
of this cycle of daily bread and butter. At the fag end of your life you
don't want to say -- "Hey, wait, but I was only preparing for the
party!!"

And yes, I *was* a teacher at RECS

Regards,
Sourav

Ojeen
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 01/31/02 at 21:38:44 »

what are you talking about man? think about this - if you have no food in your stomach, can you have the luxury of gyrating around OpenBSDs and Nobel Prizes and the related esoteric pursuits? don't blame Indian mentality; it is the question of survival for most indians. also, do you have an idea how much the taxpayers of india contribute for making 1 engineer? you might be surprised. for a poor country like india, it is a lot of money.

don't talk cock about "free living"; if rolling in greenbacks and setting up servers for downloading open source software is your idea of free living, you got to revisit your thoughts.

rec silchar is unlucky to be in the position it is now. cannot blame anyone without knowing the facts. however, from my limited first hand knowledge of 18 years in silchar i can assume (assumption is the mother of all f**kup ;D ) that the teachers' politics got out of hand and shitballed into what it is now. they went a little too far this time.

Guest Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/01/02 at 04:13:06 »

Talking in 'Fuzzy logic' is easy and rewarding.. it gives you a intellectual rubber stamp and assures some more confused audience.

Right, we Indians (Minus the NRIs !!) are good for nothing fellows. But still we take pride in our identity and has not yet lost the ability to protest whenever something illegal happens.

The agitation in REC is against the interest of students, against the interest of education policy and against the interest of the development of college. The strike has already given a bad publicity to the college in this recession market, had done deep harm to the prospects of students there and the last thing remaining to happen will be closing of the college and de-recognition.

Smiley
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/01/02 at 10:42:49 »

What I am saying is if you keep your thinking to the well, you might
as well start looking at yourself as a frog.
Do you have a dream? If yes, then you won't have time to think about
recession, bad name, CBI, MHRD ... whatever. Hell, you won't even
have time to think about how difficult it is to realise your dream.

A fellow Hans Reiser left his 9 to 5 job just to provide a solid version of
his Linux Filesystem. In his own words, A lot of bad code and design
went inside the previous versions because he could not find time to
screen the code submitted to him. This is the degree of passion that
gives rise to wonders. I believe he his a Russian, and has given
Russia a position of respect by his approach to life.

What is goin on in RECS is crap. However much you talk crap will
remain crap, so why waste your energy!!! You think you want to clean
it, but BELIEVE ME YOU, its fossilized. You can do more good for
your country by doing something in which you believe your heart and
soul instead of monotonically chanting Jai Hind Jai Hind. 100 crore
people do that. Nothings changed so far.
Bye!!

Regards,
Sourav

Smiley
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/01/02 at 11:13:23 »

Sure India is a poor country. So what fscking logic dictates your
policymakes decide its time to spend 10 lakh rupees on an IIT Engineer
so that (s)he can fill his purse while rendering his/her service to the
white man. If you are so concerned about the poor taxpayer, better
make you life worthwhile (and this is for you the students, not the
aircondition room netsurfer) so that you can contribute. And you can
truly contribute if you have a passion to follow, not by painting graffitti
on walls, making hulla, bashing chairs and desks.

And look whose gyrating. You forgotten the firms in Bangalore making
1000% profits by doing all kinds of mechanical coder works by these
"drones" the guys who come out of our Engineering Institues and wanna
quick buck (thats so easy) -- and that too after running up and down
the lanes of bangalore for six months -- don't u see. The fellow is
bored to death, can't remember what material he read for interview
yesterday. Food Food Food -- Thats what the frog in the well thinks.
THESE firms how much does it cost them to put up servers to help
people in a world wide effort!! And what is the salary of the President,
Vice President Technology, Products, Projects, Marketing, Finance,
CEO COO. Is this country all that poor. Counting the # of Hyundai
Accents lined in a company's basement parking, I don't think India
is poor. Its all about fast bucks.

Regards,
Sourav

Ojeen
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/01/02 at 21:19:53 »

You are the frog in the well. The well is the software industry and you cannot think beyond this square (or the circle or whatever). Your linux code and wholesale coders have little significance in the bigger picture.
If a student cannot address his basic academic requirements, how can he have a passion to follow? The "passionate" men in your software industry are the fringe elements, who should not lead you to think that "passion" is the way. In everyday life, it is more by hard work and diligence that a person succeeds and very little by sheer brilliance. The tenacity and fortitude matters, not the brilliant flash of lightning. So passion is not for everybody, it is for the gifted (or should I say the lucky). Having passion and no base to support it can be catastrophic.
We were talking about RECS here. The teachers and administrators should have the students' good in mind, which apparently they do not. It might be prudent for saving their own furry butt to rethink their position. With RECS de-recognised, maybe their happiness will be screwed forever.

Rexian Guest1
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/02/02 at 05:45:51 »

Hi Friends!
I think we should spin around RECS and on options towards something positive for it. The facts are:
a) We outsiders specifically don't know the realities of all the rumours coming out of RECS( through newspapers, websites).
b) One of the facts is that there is irregularities in the appointment of present Princi. Like, he did not apply for the post proper channel. When he applied, he did not have the requisite qualifications for the post but he intentionally suppressed/supplied wrong informations regarding his qualifications. These are heard facts. Subsequent developments are: He was allowed to appear for the interview (we assume that papers were checked) definitely after verification of his papers and he was selected by the expert committee. His selection was ratified by the BOG as well as Central and State govts. Now, if questions are asked about his qualifications and if at all there were some lapses in the procedure like papers were not scrutinised properly, NOC (in case applied not proper channel) was asked for or not, finger will be put at the authorities. In this circumstances, who will ascertain the doubts. If MHRD says all these allegations are false without any impartial verification, it again amounts to sheer show of power of executives. That too threatening stopage of funds, recognition etc all mere in show of powers.
c) Another fact is that all these allegations are labelled only after this princi started to bring work culture in the college. In this action, specifically non-teaching staffs are affected much and probably they started to dig something fissy for him. Basically, in any govt. concern (specifically in NE and eastern region) the work culture is pathetic. For any petty matters may take a week.
d) CBI inquiry unearthed a scam of Rs.2 crores involving three formar princies. In a country like India there is no derth of Harshad Mehtas and bofors'. It is good now something will come out. But here also the question is: Is it initiated by the present authority to counter the allegations. If CBI inquiries are allowed, I have doubts that any organisation in India can come out clean.

All I wanted to mean is that the approach how different sides look at these incidents. I don't mean that no inquiry should be held in RECS. Also, I don't mean that no strike be there in RECS. My view is whatever be, for the betterment of the college and students, all points should attended seriously and resolved at the earliest. If the same thing would have happened in any other college in other parts, the same incidents would have seen different meanings and endings. It is like the six Indian cricket players penalty story.

Guest Rexian
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/11/02 at 07:06:52 »

What is the present Status of REC silchar?

Has everything returned to normal ?

REC Guest2
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/13/02 at 00:45:41 »

The committee consisting of Dr. NKC and Dr. U Miri visited RECS in 1st week of Feb. and left RECS after staying two days. They talked to RECTAS, employees union and of course the principal. Last day of submission of thier report is the 28 th Feb. In the mean time the empolyees have not got their salaries for last two months. Exam is going on with teachers who support princi and other teachers on ad-hoc appointment by the princi. Probably there is an attempt to compromise on both sides. The status of deemed university and NIT ( I doubt) lie on resolution of this crisis. I doubt about NIT becuase, is there any news of any REC in India getting NIT status? If not, is it that RECS is the first REC to get that status? Looking into all India prespectives RECS is far below to many, specially because many good faculties have already left for IIT Gauhati and other places. Many are on the verge of leaving specially experienced ones. You see, deemed university or NIT whatever may be, all depends on the quality of staffs RECS has. If we expect senior good teachers stick to RECS, we have to see infrastructures there. Present princi has stopped college bus for children of the employees. We can not expect senior teachers to be without family and family prospects. All good institutes have schools of their own. But RECS does not have and at the same time college authority never bothers about education of children of the faculties like arrangement with some good schools for admission of the children. Forget about that even the bus used for transport of the children to and fro on payment is stopped. When college employees are not getting salaries for two months and every month college has to fight for salary, in that situation authority has purchased an air conditioned car for princi that too when already one new car(not airconditioned) is already there. I am just telling the facts and leave the judgements for you. You may verify the facts from any reliable sources you have. And it is not that easy to get experienced teachers that too in that remote area. I mean if we look for really cleaning the college atmosphere for a good future of the college there has to be unbias active participation of the students. BOG never comes to the college campus. We students should compel the BOG to come to the campus and here every authorities. If they fear to face the people of RECS they are not doing their job. If am the father/gurdian of anybody and I fear to face and hear grievances of that person I no longer remain the gurdian of that person. My ethics, my moralities should not allow me to continue to be such gurdian. Without carrying out responsibilities given one can not enjoy the rights/powers.

Enough
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/13/02 at 08:53:03 »

How do you justify a strike for more than 5 months, stopping all educational activities in the college campus? What right do you have to spoil the career of so many students there?
How is your millitant attitude helping the student community?
Do you think that your strike is legal ?

REC is an educational institute not any goverment organization, no nonsense should be tolerated here.

What MHRD has done is right. You people should be dealt severly for disrupting educational activities.

REC guest2
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/13/02 at 09:28:20 »

I have never said that strike should continue for long. Now the question is! why at all the strike is allowed to continue?
Why nobody tried to approach the striking faculties and hear their views. Yes, you may say that if they continue to be adamant, what you can do. Suppose, you say that you want these things to be verified and your demands are turned down to be bogus without any reasons thereof and in mere show of power, what do you feel about yourself. MHRD says that all the allegations are bogus without any verificatios. You say that MHRD has done right thing. Why not there are inquiries regarding these allegations and let people know that there are no real facts about these allegations. And verification of these may take even few minutes if proper authority wants it. I feel the right thing should be: Ok, here is that there is no reality in your demands ( after showing you what want to see). I do really feel that students should not be made victims. But authority should not exploit the situation otherwise.

REC Guest2
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/13/02 at 23:54:21 »

What is a legal strike? In a country, where every thing is judged by vote banks, anything is possible. Even a person who has not seen the light of learning can become prime minister but not even a peon. I do want that CBI inquiries be held and at the same time there should be inquiries against the allegations of present princi. I do want that let the culprits be known. You talked about non-sense. Is it your good sense that some allegations should be turned down as bogus outright and other allegations are serious at the wish of bureaucrats. Do you feel that if at all there is some truth about these allegations and it is allowed to be suppressed, it will be good for RECS? I feel both type of people are insidious for RECS. Who can do something deceitful for personal benefits, atleast I feel, can not do anything good for an educational institute. Too emotional/bias senses are not good senses. I feel you are mature enough.
I want that we should learn from these incidents and sit together to do something so that this sort of things do not recur. I do demand that there should be more opportunities for the students to say/do with reasons in an educational institutions. I have seen a lot of this college. I don't want to loose this college and at the same time I don't want that this type of things recur. I do have a strong feeling for the college, more than any personal feeling. For betterment of this college, when there is investigation, let there should be a commission who will look into details for everything, right from its inceptions, irregularities, reasons for non-developments, why it could not develop well, problems, mitigations, persons responsible, opportunities and probable solutions etc.

Enough
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/15/02 at 09:02:42 »

Tell me why nobody is listening to your demands?

Why MHRD, Board of Directors of the college headed by the State Chief Minister, AICTE all are against you ?

Why, everyone turned down any arbitrary removal of the Principal under pressure from the agitating teachers and employees.

All bureaucracy ??? everyone is biased ??

And why are demands raised by teachers and non-teaching employees revolve round a one-point agenda of removing the Principal only.

Why is removal of Principal suddenly become so important for the agitators that they are in a indefinite strike that had already continued for 5-6 months.

What is the motive???

Something constructive for the college cannot be done in this way, why are you holding the careers of so many students in ransom

REC GUEST2
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/16/02 at 00:01:23 »

It sounds really funny. I don't want to the repeat same. You seem to be on a presumaptive state. Why don't you people ask these people( MHRD, BOG Chairman) to conduct an inquiry and let people know the facts? You are asking me about the turning down of demands of striking party outright without verifications? You ask the persons who are doing it? I have never said that the princi be removed. If he comes out clean where is the question of his removal. In fact, that will make him shine otherwise. That will be good for him also. Are these people afraid of any investigations of such things? They should not be, if at all there is no fissy things?

Raj1
Guest

Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/16/02 at 18:07:29 »

I think I am a little confused here. What is the striking teacher's demand? An enquiry commission? How this problem actually started? Someone please enlighten me.

Former Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/18/02 at 04:29:46 »

Hello everyone,

Happened to stumble across this discussion on the state of affairs at REC Silchar, by accident.

Felt extremely sorry to hear that even after all these years (13 years to be precise) things appear to be the same at my alma mater.

The anger, the frustrations that many of you are expressing aren't different from what was felt then.

Yes, REC Silchar certainly needs a cleanup. That pernicious growth was evident almost two decades ago and it has suppurated now.

If the principal is working to clean up the college, all like-minded students and teachers should support him. Let me confess before I go further I am not clear as to what event(s) led to the present hiatus. There were too many discussions on the peripheral issues and so it is easy for any reader to get lost.

Students and teachers have no business apart from concentrating on their studies and on creating an atmosphere conducive to learning, in any educational institution.

I have seen many students monkey around, acting as 'leaders' of the students in the college. Their antics were most visible during college election time and of course you would never hear a word from them when it came to issues related to standards of education in the college.

We had also heard during my time in the college about how atleast one departmental head had the habit of pocketing money from his department's capital expenditure. Of course these were discussed in whispers and it was difficult for students to prove any of this.

All of this has to stop if the students and teachers earnestly believe in raising the standard of the institution.

Like Ceaser's wife, they- students and teachers- should be above suspicion, for it is this which poisons the atmosphere of learning, affects morale and in turn damages the reputation of the college.

Unfortunately there are many institutions in India, which are decaying in a similar manner. REC Silchar is not an exception.

It is the students and teachers at IITs and other reputed institutions who TOGETHER make the difference. One group alone does not make the difference all by themselves.

I am sure there are still a few sincere, concerned individuals in either community. You could come together and make a difference and do that quietly without too much hullabaloo about it. It certainly cannot happen overnight and will take time.

If the principal is sincere, reach out to him and to other concerned officials around.

The students and teachers have too much at stake if they let their college's reputation down the drain.

Ex-Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/19/02 at 02:56:04 »

Former Rexian.., nice to know your views..
things have not improved recently.. and if the attitude of the teachers are not going to change, REC silchar would one day perish.

I do not live in silchar, and i am not certain why this 5-6 month strike is still going on. But one thing I am certain, after reading articles in newspapers and websites and discussing with many ex rexians, that the agitators main demand is to remove prinicipal. Because, they think that he is under qualified. But what I still donot understand is why is this strike continuing for so many months, what is the motive behind this strike? Is it because the Principal had clamped tight on the irregular activities of a section of people ? Is it because he tried to bring in a work culture and stop the existing corruptions ?

I have heard that leading the agitators is B.K Roy (EECOS dept). Ex Rexians in the early nineties and late eighties period can tell best about him and how he dealt with the students and their careers. How careers are spoilt and broken at REC silchar because of some teachers mercy and wish, will be evident if ex rexians open their mouth.

I heard from this forum that enquiry commisons result will be out on end of feb. Let there be peace after that. But whoever is responsible for this unrest and spoiling the career of so many students studying at RECS should be dealt severely.

Former rexian (1986 batch
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/26/02 at 22:23:45 »

To the netters:

I am a former REXIAN (1986 Batch). This institution had a history of politics and corruption. Many principals came, tried in vain to break this and were not successful. It is those students who are in the institution currently who are going to be affected.

From the student's perspective pl. start an e-mail campaign and get the truth out and campaign for a quick end to this strike.

Try to get out of this campus at your earliest.

My best wishes for all the currently enrolled students

Former Rexian (1986) batch

atechpro
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 02/27/02 at 18:09:19 »

I am a Rexian of 1984 batch.Very sad to note the happenings at REC Silchar but it was no better during our time too.
That institute is doomed.Present Rexians get out of this college at the earliest.

Guest Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 03/01/02 at 08:41:05 »

Any news on enquiry commisons report which was due on 28th Feb?

REC-Guest2
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 03/08/02 at 00:38:41 »

The two member commision report is confidential so even if it is submitted already, it is very unlikely for anybody other than BOG chairman to know the details about it. But I hope it will be in the positive direction of the college. In the mean time, it is heard that the present princi is going for on leave from 10th March and there is lot of confusions in the college. The College does not have money to pay salaries but by 10th March income tax statements are to be submitted. And for few months salaris are not paid but unpaid salaries are included in the income tax statements. How the college will pay the taxes to the income tax authorities when it does not have any source. Right now princi is in Delhi and is likely to go on leave from 10th March. That means the commission report is probably submitted to the BOG already. The news is: REC Durgapur is already declared NIT some days back.

Ex Rex
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 03/16/02 at 05:07:30 »

Any more news from Silchar ??

Are the classes being held regulary now? or the teachers are still in striking mode?

Were the results declared in time ?

Any campus interviews this year?

My heart is with the present students of REC silchar, the loss they had already taken in their career is incalculable.

exrex
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 03/18/02 at 13:26:49 »

Hey friends, I'm an ex-Rexian who passed out more than a decade ago, and I'm viewing the situation with great concern. If the REC degree is indeed de-recognized, it'll be an extremely severe blow to all of us, but more so for the students currently studying. As I remember, the situation, academic or otherwise, was pathetic even during our time in college, but now it seems that it's gone from bad to worse. The reasons for this are many. The responsibility for this situation lies squarely with the authorities. However, this situation has to be viewed in a larger context. In my view, even though this is bound to hurt a lot of people,Assam in general, and Barak Valley in particular, is absolutely the wrong place for an institution of this nature. Can anybody name a single centre of excellence (other than IIT Guwahati, which is wholly managed by the Central Government) in the entire region ? What is the general standard of the other educational institutions in the area ? How do the students of the North East perform in all-India competitive examinations ? Isn't it true that the whole of North Eastern India is an academic desert ?
Most of the bright students who choose a vocational stream choose to move out of the region, if they can. The ones that stay behind repent. Our college has always attracted the worst sort of "talent" in the form of teachers, administrators and staff - some of them plain criminals. The better people find the atmosphere nauseating, and move on to other places. I remember a very bright lecturer in the Mechanical department moving out of the college, during our time at the college. Before he left, he let us know what exactly was going on.
Assam, Barak Valley included, is in the grip of corruption of such intense degree that its general social and economic health has virtually reached a terminal stage. The general social atmosphere is suffocating. It is plainly ridiculous to expect an institution of academic excellence to thrive in a cancerous society. One might well argue that this doesn't explain the state of our college, as corruption isn't restricted to Assam alone, and even in states like Bihar, where corruption is endemic, there are a few institutions doing pretty well. My answer to this is that, if you look at the places where these institutions exist, you'll surely find that these institutes have, at some stage of their existence, attracted administrators of integrity and dedication, which our institution has sorely lacked ( the few ones who came weren't allowed to work).Also, there are industries, or other organisations nearby which have attracted a lot of well educated people from other places, and these industries /organisations have contributed to the development of these institutions. Technical instititutes cannot exist in isolation - interaction with industry and scientific organisations is essential. This is another reason why our college has been lagging behind.
From what I've heard (I have been out of the Barak Valley for a good many years, and my knowledge is restricted to what I've heard from my friends, and also from this website) the new principal has been trying to arrest the slide, and stem the fountain of corruption. In the process , he has attracted the enmity of a lot of people, which includes members of the teaching staff, too. The first principal of the college, Mr. Chablani, also tried to improve things but was forced to leave by the local mafia, which has tried to give a regional / communal colour to the present state of affairs. If this institution is to survive, the ministry of HRD must step in immediately, bring the college under complete central government control so that ALL recruitments are made centrally,replace the board of governors and replace it with well known educationists from reputed institutions all over India, conduct a CBI/CAG/audit enquiry into the funds management of the college in the last two decades and give exemplary punishment to the guilty. Also, the people of Silchar must step in and demand a change in the state of affairs. It must be remembered that an all-India institution, particularly an educational institution , must attract the best talents from ALL over India. Being narrow and regional about this is suicidal.
If this cannot be done, and if the college cannot maintain satisfactory academic standards,let the college close down rather than blight the future of bright students who make the mistake of coming here, in this age of intense competition.

(I beg forgiveness from you all if I've hurt you by my harsh remarks about Assam and Barak Valley. I hail from Barak Valley myself, and I've used these words only because I feel very strongly about my alma mater.)

Guest Rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 03/21/02 at 07:35:48 »

One of the speaker in this forum had said 'Why waste energy in trying to clean a Crap environment, it is fossilized', I now feel that his words are valid.

exrex, the last speaker had analyzed the situation from another angle, his views are strong and honestly highlights some ares where RECS lags behind. He too is unsure if the college can ever rise from ashes.

Almost everyone in the forum expressed their anger and frustration in the way the college had been hold to ransom by the striking teachers. Ex Rexians knows what high price they had to pay when they studied in RECS.I believe that the present students has no option but give in to the demands of their teachers because the 'sessional' gun is pointed to their head. Otherwise, it is the student community who could have burried this illegal strike long ago. I am also surprised on why is this situation allowed to continue for so long. Someone should have filed a petition or PIL on High court declaring this strike illegal. As this strike is against academic environment, it would have been squashed by the orders of high court.

Till end of December, Assam Tribune, yahoo all carried news with updates on REC Silchar, but suddenly there is a lack of information everywhere. I am concerned about my alma matar and I search the net regularly to get an update on REC Silchar Status. It is only here in REC Silchar room, I am able to get some information and views from rexian community. Why are the leading news papers and Tv channels not doing any investigative journalism? Students in REC, are you happy with your status now?

Smiley
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 04/06/02 at 07:41:12 »

Listen buddy, I say again.
If the thing is not in your hands, leave it to the dogs. This
crap Indianism of being born with a PhD in politics from one's
mothers worm has to stop if you wanna go ahead. Don't
forget you may have a very noble cause of cleaning the
shit out of the system, but in the end you and your folks may
look behind and say "What's in it for me" Just bloody leave it.
In the meantime do something constructive. Since people here
have been so denaturalised that any word that comes even
close to "fun", "joy", "happiness" is straight shot down to the
depths of the nether world, I would refrain to use such words
however if I may be allowed to rephrase "do something that
may be useful to you in future" like reading "Unix Networking
Programming" etc (or whatever subject or activity you may
feel is going to be a worthwhile for you). If the thing cleans
up, well and good, sit in your exams, but if it doesn't, you
will still have something to go to the world with.

Regards,
Sourav

Well wisher- ex-rexian
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 06/11/02 at 10:05:17 »

Hi, looks like you guys were having lots of fun in net while people are carrying out their business. Being an ex rexian, i am concerned about the crisis but i hope it's over by now.

Sounds like, things have not changed much there, except in the field of internet. At least u can argue over here now.... For you guys, still studying there, all i want to say is, make the best out of what you have. Situation is like that everywhere in the world. The thing is in individual's attitude. There were good teachers, there were not so good teachers and few of them are bad i guess. But i can claim most of them were good.
Once you get out of the college, i's solely upto you to be successful. So try to be independent from now.

RexianEx
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 06/21/02 at 09:50:45 »

Hi Rexians,

Can you please update us on the latest status. What was the result of Enquiry commison? Is the Strike over ? Every Thing Normal and cool? What 'bout campus interviews?

Regards
Ex Rexian

Jimut
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 06/21/02 at 10:22:07 »

The strike's over long back...
The even semester exams are on currently..the final year should be out by June end.
Campus hasn't been too good last year but that's been the case with most colleges in India...no reason to believe next year will be as bad.Has been a bit tough for this batch though...
Hostels have attained a shabbier look...though the messes have been spruced up a bit...I was also told that the food quality as well as the mess bill has gone up...would have loved to have the likes of Kaushik-da around to see their reactions at a pricey mess expense statement ;D
All the hostels are practically flooded with PCs..I guess every 3rd guy ( or girl for that matter) has one these days in his/her room...the atmosphere is definitely more "Padhaku" than ever before.
The Princi doesn't stay in the campus..Bharbhuiya Sir is presently i/c as Col.Virk is on leave ( I hear to strengthen his case against the errant teaching staff.The students have probably realized by now that they actually had no point gunning for the princi's head at the behest of the teachers.So it's back to books for most of them.
This is all I know.

Bhatt
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 07/06/02 at 07:58:31 »

I had been to REC in April 2002, to collect my Degree Certificate. Infact it was the first time I was visiting REC since I passed out, in July 1997. The following are the changes which I noticed ......

1. Many of the better teachers like Krishnendu sir, Achinta sir, Mr. Amit Aditya, Mr Sajal Dev, Kolin Paul etc etc had left REC, and had joined other colleges in diiferent parts of India. Offcourse, Ratnajit Sir, Fazal Sir, Arup Bhatt sir and Shil Sir were still there.

2. But unfortunately, some more of the popular teachers were also planning to leave within a few months.

3. RENCO fest was in progress while I was there .....I saw a lot of activities & preperatios .... "Vibrations" still seemed to be the most popular night ...... I was told that REXTIME is still published ..... unfortunately I couldnot get my hands on any of the isssues.

4. The student/teacher relationship seemed to have detoriated a lot ..... some of the teachers told me that they had not been invited for the festivals !!!! However, I did not get to hear the other side of the story.

5. The GRAFFITI wall magazine is no longer published.....infact some fo the new Rexians had not even heard about it .....Also, most of the activities from the Magazine section seemed to have stopped. I think REC needs a few more Jimuts, Bashumans (pre 6th Sem status) and Nupurs......

6. The computer lab/facilities seemed to have improved a lot....... REC is connected to the R-net by a VSAT link. But inspite of this, I hardly saw any students in the labs...... Offcourse, later when I visited the hostel I understood the reason for their absence.... every second guy in the hostel has a PC in his room !!!!

7. The small porota-waalas (remember Jitenda and Ajitda) besides 4th and 3rd hostel were no longer there ... i was told that the new Princi did not allow them. Instead, the students now use two canteens which have been built within the campus.... one opposite to the bank & the other at the corner of 4th hostel. But the food in both these were equally bad ... atleast that is my opinion !!!!

8. I had a lunch in the 'A' mess of 4th ..... with "Daal and Shobjee" supplied by Jishu from 'B' mess .... the food quality has definitely detoriated, and the bills have gone up .... I was told that the general mess bill is about Rs800 these days .... As for the old workers.....Akulda, Sunilda, Jamai, Jishoo, Suren and the rest are still there ......

9. There is one cubercafe, and two STD/Xerox booths within the campus (near the bank)...... this was one improvement which I really appreciated...... especially when u consider the fact that in my days we had to go to Medical to make an STD call.

10. The Admin staff ..... especially Pradipda .... still remain as helpful as ever .....

11. The Princi's room is guarded by a Assam Police armed guard, who brandishes a carbine ( and not a .303 as u would have expected)..... I was told that you could not visit him unless u made an appointment.

12. The "Red Fort" still remains like the "jail" it used to be ..... but both the "old" & "new" Lovers Lanes are still as popular as they used to be ..... I guess somethings don't change .....

13. The hostels desperately need renevations ..... and some of the living conditions are really pathetic.

14. Das Gupta Sir looks after the TnP section ..... but I was told that the campus recruitment last year had not been very good .... i guess it had to do with the general conditions in the global market.

15. The other pace which seemed to have undergone a lot of change is the library .... the reference section seemed to have been well arranged .... the bookbank gives out more books these days ..... there is an audio-visual section where you have three TVs connected to three VCPs..... and a number of casettes with recorded 'lectures'..... but while I was there I didnot see and students using this facility !!!

16. All "State" freshers & farewell functions are carried out in differnet resturants in Silchar ..... but yes... you still have the guys divided as PHDs, Mallus, Guwahati, Maligaon and Town .... Guys told me that stiil have 'packings' during the college elections ..... this was one more thing which hasn't changed.

17. And lastly...inspite of all the trouble the 'Sessions' are still on time .... so I guess that is something positive.

Well ... that is all I have time for today ......

Ciao,
Bhatt

nayan
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Re: REC - Silchar Crisis
«on: 10/06/02 at 08:25:14 »

hi
the truth is that we lack visonary and good leaders. we r so preoccupied with the present that what will happen in future. what has happened cann't be undone. so let us stop postmortoing it and think what to be done to regain it lost prestige. let us all rexian unite and do something that will stop this madness. only then things will improve. so anyone who has better ideas and can think on those lines plz contribute ur ideas and let the action begin.

and ex rexian
nayan '97

ami_jeet