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Mangal Pandey
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Anybody has seen this movie? |
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mon_amar
mon_amar
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/14/05 at 19:43:47 » |
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Mangal Mangal Mangal Mangal
Mangal Mangal Ho
Naaa aazkei shara plan flop maarlo :(, ticket nai kono show-er :'( aar shamner shoptahe :-/ |
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shaan
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/15/05 at 01:56:57 » |
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Wont please the class nor the mass. Ketan delivers a true middle of the road. Amir's excellent though.
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admin
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/15/05 at 04:05:11 » |
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watched on friday ... not great .. aamir was good ... but what can u expect from ketan mehta ...
could have been better ... lot of times the hype kills the experience ... and this was one of those... |
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confused
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/16/05 at 10:11:12 » |
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Anybody has read this book?
http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDE713/
Seems to contradict what we learnt in your history book. |
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Rupam
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/16/05 at 11:10:32 » |
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Probably what the others have said about the movie is true, but for someone like me, it was full entertainment. |
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shaan
shaan
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/17/05 at 09:34:58 » |
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the film is doing goo d busienss. Distributors claiming it to be bigger than lagaan. I've liked d movie, no doubt abt that, but you knwo Rupam, when u have huge huge expectation from a film and it does not comne up to that, you feel sad. Guardian has rightly said why there is so much of nach gaana (if u remember right after the gramvasis are bulleted, tehrr comes the holy song, they smile, dance, laugh, ) .We have seen Mirch Masala earlier and dil Chata hain too. ketan & Amir itself raises expectation because they are sinmply wonderful in their past, otherwise the movie is a great experience. Detail is so wonderful |
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shaan
shaan
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/17/05 at 09:36:21 » |
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shovon kita link diley, site under maintenance koy deki
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Rupam
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/17/05 at 15:18:49 » |
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If AAmir Khan ios to be believed- "Rising has done more business in its first week itself, than Lagan did in its full run".
It has already collected more than Bunty aur Bubli has done till now. :) |
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confused
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/18/05 at 13:57:24 » |
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I am sure the movie is quite entertaining. They will screen it next week in my city. So I shall have a chance to voice my opinion then. But I was pointing to something else. The book by Rudrangshu Mukherjee does not paint Mangal Pandey as a hero. On the contrary it depicts Mangal Pandey as a myth created by Indian nationalism. I don't want to believe that. Since my early school days I learnt that Mangal Pandey was the one who started first Indian revolution. But as I go through the extracts of Rudrangshu Mukherjee's book, I found his explanations more logical. ??? |
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Shankar_Chakravarti
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/18/05 at 14:10:33 » |
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[quote author=confused link=board=0011&num=1124014659&start=0#4 date=08/16/05 at 10:11:12]
Anybody has read this book?
http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDE713/
Seems to contradict what we learnt in your history book.
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Shovon Chakraborty
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/18/05 at 15:25:30 » |
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The movie is boring. I had to wait for 15th Aug to pass as till then bombing was free with this movie. Ultimately saw the movie in the night show, and was disheartened.
Was Mangal Pandey the first martyr during the 1857 battle for independence? Doubtful case. Although, I strongly believe that 1857's battle should be termed as 1st battle for independebce and not as sepoy mutiny (what the brute brits have written in the world history books), but to say that Mangal Pandey started this would be an exaggeration of the truth. As somebody pointed out in an article, prob. this uneducated brahmin from baliya, U.P. just wanted to teach the white skinned people a lesson or two. |
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chiramuri
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/18/05 at 18:40:39 » |
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HERE's to the critics' critics' soul: You don't understand movies, neither hype, nor fun.... ;D |
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didibhai
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/19/05 at 00:15:39 » |
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Shankar da,
Here is an extract from the link. Happy b'day, though belated!!! 8) :D
From the Jacket:
'Come out! Get ready! It's for our religion! From biting these cartridge we shall become infidels!'
On a sleepy Sunday afternoon in March 1857, an agitated sepoy in the English East India Company's 34th Native Infantry marched on to the parade ground in Barrackpore, exhorting his comrades to join him in protecting their religion from the Europeans. When British officers arrived to arrest him, he drew his sword on them and then turned his musket on himself. As he was led off to the gallows a few days later, Mangal Pandey passed into history and legend as the man who single-handedly started the 1857 Rising.
But who was the real Mangal Pandey? A dashing, heroic figure, as portrayed by Aamir Khan in the film The Rising? A fiery patriot who embarked on a suicidal mission to defend his country's honour? Or just an ordinary sepoy who, in a state of intoxication, committed a foolhardy act for which he was hanged?
Lively, thought-provoking as well as scholarly, Rudrangshu Mukherjee's analysis of this episode in Indian history presents a vivid picture of life in the barracks of the East India Company's cantonments in 1857, describes the social customs and military regulations that governed the daily routines of Mangal Pandey and other Indian sepoys, and examines the controversies and unrest that foreshadowed the 1857 Rising.
Uncovering the hard facts behind the myths and conjectures of popular belief, nationalist rhetoric and cinematic imagination, this book provides, for the first time, a credible portrait of Mangal Pandey as he really was.
About the Author:
Rudrangshu Mukherjee was educated at Presidency College, Kolkata, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, and St. Edmund Hall, Oxford. He was awarded a D.Phill in Modern History by the University of Oxford in 1981. he has taught History at the University of Calcutta and held visiting appointments at Princeton University, the University of Manchester and the University of California, Santa Cruz. He is author of Awadh in Revolt 1857-58: A Study of Popular Resistance (Delhi, 1984, repr. 2002) and Spectre of Violence: The 1857 Kanpur Massacres (Delhi, 1998). He has also edited The Penguin Gandhi Reader (Delhi, 1993) and the Art of Bengal: A Vision Defined, 1955-75 (Kolkata, 2003). He is the co-editor of Trade and Politics and the Indian Ocean World: Essays in Honour of Ashin Das Gupta (Delhi, 1998). He is now editor, editorial pages, The Telegraph.
CONTENTS
Acknowledgements ix
29 March 1857 1
Life of a Sepoy 9
The Greased Cartridge 24
Chapati, Rumours and Prophecy 36
The Trial 47
Epilogue 57
Appendix One : Excerpts from documents on the trial of Mangal Pandey 69
Appendix Two : Mutinies in North India, Disarmed Regiments and Other Corps that Mutinied 95
Notes 100
Bibliography 107
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shaan
shaan
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/19/05 at 02:10:56 » |
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http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,1542667,00.html |
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Shankar_Chakravarti
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Re: Mangal Pandey
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08/19/05 at 10:58:38 » |
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[quote author=didibhai link=board=0011&num=1124014659&start=0#13 date=08/19/05 at 00:15:39]
Shankar da,
Here is an extract from the link. Happy b'day, though belated!!! 8) :D
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Dear Didibhai,
Thanks for the belated B’day wish but you didn’t understand TaarCheera’s joke. Even TaarCheera doesn’t know my date of birth !! ??? ???
( Of course it is in one of the last 364 days ) He uses the imaginary birthday party to tell others that he is very much active, and he has not forgotten us. My B’day is only an excuse. ;)
But of course the way he has described Dr. AKS holding the plate in two hands and eating directly from the plate, I am ready to through a party to see such scenes and enjoy ! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for the details of that book of Rudrangshu Mukherjee.
Dear Shaan,
Thanks for the link. I will go through the link in details later.
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