Defining Success




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Debabrata
debabrata

Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/30/04 at 18:33:50 »
  

I am sorry if this long post makes you annoyed. I could not but share this with you all. Today this mail came to me from one of my colleague. I have gone through it again and again. Every single line of this mail has touched me and moved me. Success is a subjective matter. It varies person to person. Let us discuss what success means to us. Let this nice  address be the foundation for this discussion……


Following is the address  by Subroto Bagchi, Chief Operating Officer, MindTree Consulting to the Class of 2006 at the Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore defining success. July 2nd 2004 .

It's inspiring and worth a read. Take out some time and go through it............


"I  was  the  last child of a small-time government servant, in a family of
Five  brothers.  My  earliest  memory of my father is as that of a District
Employment Officer in Koraput, Orissa.

It  was  and  remains  as  back  of  Beyond as you canimagine. There was no
electricity;  no primary school nearby and water did not flow out of a tap.
As  a  result,  I  did  not  go  to  school  until  the age of eight; I was
home-schooled.

My  father  used  to  get transferred every year. The family belongings fit
into  the  back  of  a  jeep - so the family moved from place to place and,
without  any  trouble,  my  Mother would set up an establishment and get us
going.  Raised  by  a  widow  who  had come as a refugee from the then East
Bengal, she was a matriculate when she married my Father.

My  parents set the foundation of my life and the value system which makes
me what I am today and largely defines what success means to me today.

As  District  Employment  Officer,  my  father  was  given  a  jeep  by the
government.  There  was  no garage in the Office, so the jeep was parked in
our house. My father refused to use it to commute to the office. He told us
that  the  jeep  is  an  expensive  resource  given  by the government - he
reiterated  to  us  that  it  was not 'his jeep' but the government's jeep.
Insisting that he would use it only to tour the interiors, he would walk to
his  office  on  normal  days.  He  also made sure that we never sat in the
government jeep -we could sit in it only when it was stationary.

That was our early childhood lesson in governance - a lesson that corporate
Managers learn the hard way, some never do.

The  driver of the jeep was treated with respect due to any other member of
my  Father's  office.  As small children, we were taught not to call him by
his  name. We had to use the suffix 'dada' whenever we were to refer to him
in  public or private. When I grew up to own a car and a driver by the name
of  Raju  was  appointed - I repeated the lesson to my two small daughters.
They  have,  as  a  result,  grown  up  to  call  Raju, 'Raju Uncle' â€" very
different  from  many of their friends who refer to their family drivers as
'my  driver'. When I hear that term from a school- or college-going person,
I cringe.

To  me,  the  lesson  was  significant  -  you treat small people with more
respect than how you treat big people. It is more important to respect your
subordinates than your superiors.

Our  day used to start with the family huddling around my Mother's chulha -
an earthen fire place she would build at each place of posting where she
would  cook  for  the  family. There was no gas, nor electrical stoves. The
morning  routine started with tea. As the brew was served, Father would ask
us to read aloud the editorial page of The Statesman's 'muffosil' edition -
delivered one day late. We did not understand much of what we were reading.

But  the  ritual  was  meant  for us to know that the world was larger than
Koraput  district  and the English I speak today, despite having studied in
an
Oriya  medium  school,  has  to  do  with  that  routine. After reading the
newspaper aloud, we were told to fold it neatly.

Father  taught  us a simple lesson. He used to say, "You should leave your
newspaper and your toilet, the way you expect to find it".

That  lesson was about showing consideration to others. Business begins and
ends with that simple precept.

Being  small  children, we were always enamoured with advertisements in the
newspaper for transistor radios - we did not have one. We saw other people
having  radios  in  their homes and each time there was an advertisement of
Philips, Murphy or Bush radios, we would ask Father when we could get one.

Each  time,  my  Father  would  reply  that  we did not need one because he
already had five radios - alluding to his five sons. We also did not have a
house
Of  our  own  and would occasionally ask Father as to when, like others, we
would live in our own house. He would give a similar reply, "We do not need
a
house  of  our own. I already own five houses". His replies did not gladden
our hearts in that instant.

Nonetheless, we learnt that it is important not to measure personal success
and sense of well being through material possessions.

Government houses seldom came with fences. Mother and I collected twigs and
built a small fence. After lunch, my Mother would never sleep. She would
take  her  kitchen  utensils  and with those she and I would dig the rocky,
white ant infested surrounding. We planted flowering bushes. The white
ants  destroyed them. My mother brought ash from her chulha and mixed it in
the  earth  and  we  planted  the seedlings all over again. This time, they
bloomed.

At  that  time,  my  father's  transfer order came. A few neighbors told my
mother why she was taking so much pain to beautify a government house, why
she was planting seeds that would only benefit the next occupant. My mother
replied that it did not matter to her that she would not see the flowers
in full bloom.

She  said,  "I have to create a bloom in a desert and whenever I am given a
new place, I must leave it more beautiful than what I had
inherited".

That  was  my  first lesson in success. It is not about what you create for
yourself, it is what you leave behind that defines success.

My mother began developing a cataract in her eyes when I was very small. At
that time, the eldest among my brothers got a teaching job at the
University  in  Bhubaneswar  and  had  to  prepare  for  the civil services
examination.  So,  it was decided that my Mother would move to cook for him
and, as her
appendage,  I  had  to  move  too.  For  the  first  time in my life, I saw
electricity  in Homes and water coming out of a tap. It was around 1965 and
the  country  was going to war with Pakistan. My mother was having problems
reading and in any case, being Bengali, she did not know the Oriya script.

So,  in  addition  to  my  daily  chores,  my job was to read her the local
newspaper - end to end. That created in me a sense of connectedness with a
larger  world.  I  began  taking  interest  in many different things. While
reading  out news about the war, I felt that I was fighting the war myself.
She  and  I  discussed  the  daily  news  and  built a bond with the larger
universe.

In  it, we became part of a larger reality. Till date, I measure my success
in terms of that sense of larger connectedness.

Meanwhile, the war raged and India was fighting on both fronts. Lal Bahadur
Shastri,  the  then  Prime Minster, coined the term "Jai Jawan, Jai Kishan"
and  galvanized  the  nation in to patriotic fervor. Other than reading out
the  newspaper to my mother, I had no clue about how I could be part of the
action. So, after reading her the newspaper, every day I would land up near
the  University's  water  tank,  which  served the community. I would spend
hours  under  it,  imagining  that  there  could be spies who would come to
poison  the  water  and  I  had  to  watch for them. I would daydream about
catching  one  and  how the next day, I would be featured in the newspaper.
Unfortunately  for  me,  the  spies  at  war  ignored  the  sleepy  town of
Bhubaneswar  and I never got a chance to catch one in action. Yet, that act
unlocked my imagination.

Imagination is everything. If we can imagine a future, we can create it, if
we  can  create that future, others will live in it. That is the essence of
success.

Over  the next few years, my mother's eyesight dimmed but in me she created
a larger vision, a vision with which I continue to see the world and, I
sense, through my eyes, she was seeing too. As the next few years unfolded,
her vision deteriorated and she was operated for cataract. I remember, when
she  returned after her operation and she saw my face clearly for the first
time, she was astonished. She said, "Oh my God, I did not know you were so
fair". I remain mighty pleased with that adulation even till date.

Within  weeks of getting her sight back, she developed a corneal ulcer and,
overnight,  became  blind in both eyes. That was 1969. She died in 2002. In
all those 32 years of living with blindness, she never complained about her
fate  even  once. Curious to know what she saw with blind eyes, I asked her
once  if she sees darkness. She replied, "No, I do not see darkness. I only
see light even with my eyes closed". Until she was eighty years of age, she
did  her  morning  yoga  everyday,  swept  her  own room and washed her own
clothes.

To  me,  success is about the sense of independence; it is about not seeing
the world but seeing the light.

Over  the  many  intervening years, I grew up, studied, joined the industry
and  began  to carve my life's own journey. I began my life as a clerk in a
government  office,  went  on  to  become a Management Trainee with the DCM
group  and  eventually  found  my  life's calling with the IT industry when
fourth  generation computers came to India in 1981. Life took me places - I
worked  with  outstanding  people, challenging assignments and traveled all
over the, world.

In  1992,  while  I was posted in the US, I learnt that my father, living a
retired  life  with  my  eldest  brother,  had suffered a third degree burn
injury  and was admitted in the Safderjung Hospital in Delhi. I flewback to
attend to him - he remained for a few days in critical stage, bandaged from
neck to toe. The Safderjung Hospital is a cockroac infested, dirty, inhuman
place.  The  overworked,  under-resourced sisters in the burn ward are both
victims and perpetrators of dehumanized life at its worst.

One morning, while attending to my Father, I realized that the blood bottle
was  empty and fearing that air would go into his vein, I asked the tending
nurse  to  change it. She bluntly told me to do it myself. In that horrible
theater of death, I was in pain and frustration and anger. Finally when she
relented and came, my Father opened his eyes and murmured to her, "Why have
you  not  gone home yet?" Here was a man on his deathbed but more concerned
about  the  overworked nurse than his own state. I was stunned at his stoic
self.

There  I  learnt  that  there  is  no limit to how concerned you can be for
another human being and what is the limit of inclusion you can create.

My father died the next day.

He  was  a  man whose success was defined by his principles, his frugality,
his  universalism  and his sense of inclusion. Above all, he taught me that
success is your ability to rise above your discomfort, whatever may be your
current  state.  You  can, if you want, raise your consciousness above your
immediate  surroundings.  Success is not about building material comforts -
the  transistor  that  he never could buy or the house that he never owned.
His  success  was  about  the legacy he left, the memetic continuity of his
ideals   that  grew  beyond  the  smallness  of  a  ill-paid,  unrecognized
government servant's world.

My  father  was a fervent believer in the British Raj. He sincerely doubted
the  capability of the post-independence Indian political parties to govern
the  country.  To  him,  the lowering of the Union Jack was a sad event. My
Mother  was  the exact opposite. When Subhash Bose quit the Indian National
Congress  and  came  to Dacca, my mother, then a schoolgirl, garlanded him.
She  learnt  to  spin khadi and joined an underground movement that trained
her  in using daggers and swords. Consequently, our household saw diversity
in  the political outlook of the two. On major issues concerning the world,
the Old Man and the Old Lady had differing opinions.

In  them, we learnt the power of disagreements, of dialogue and the essence
of  living  with diversity in thinking. Success is not about the ability to
create  a  definitive  dogmatic  end  state;  it  is about the unfolding of
thought processes, of dialogue and continuum.

Two years back, at the age of eighty-two, Mother had a paralytic stroke and
was lying in a government hospital in Bhubaneswar. I flew down from the US
where I was serving my second stint, to see her. I spent two weeks with her
in  the  hospital  as  she  remained  in a paralytic state. She was neither
getting  better  nor  moving  on. Eventually I had to return to work. While
leaving  her  behind,  I  kissed  her  face.  In that paralytic state and a
garbled  voice,  she said, "Why are you kissing me, go kiss the world." Her
river  was  nearing  its journey, at the confluence of life and death, this
woman  who  came to India as a refugee, raised by a widowed Mother, no more
educated than high school, married to an anonymous government servant whose
last  salary  was  Rupees Three Hundred, robbed of her eyesight by fate and
crowned by adversity - was telling me to go and kiss the world!

Success  to  me  is  about  Vision.  It  is  the  ability to rise above the
immediacy  of  pain.  It  is  about imagination. It is about sensitivity to
small  people. It is about building inclusion. It is about connectedness to
a larger world existence. It is about personal tenacity. It is about giving
back  more  to  life  than  you  take  out  of  it.  It  is  about creating
extra-ordinary success with ordinary lives.

Thank you very much; I wish you good luck and Godspeed. Go, kiss the world."
 
 
Gaan
Gaan

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/30/04 at 20:36:15 »
  

Lovely piece...Thx for sharing it with us.  
 
asiti
asiti

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/30/04 at 20:47:20 »
  

Good one. Thanks for forwarding.

The question I pose to myself...

What do I have in me to inspire my children?
 
 
Debabrata
debabrata

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/30/04 at 20:56:56 »
  


[quote author=asiti link=board=0011&num=1091185430&start=0#2 date=07/30/04 at 20:47:20]

The question I pose to myself...

What do I have in me to inspire my children?
[/quote]

Asiti da .. would you tell us  what really u want ur child to inherit from you?? or is it still a question to you..  ??
 
 
asiti
asiti

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/30/04 at 21:33:20 »
  

IT IS A VERY BIG QUESTION MARK TO ME YET.

I have never given up in my struggles. I determine never to lie.

But is it my ego speaking? in that case my children would not respond to that!!

However, I have already mailed to my kids..the line ,  "You should leave your
newspaper and your toilet, the way you expect to find it".
 
 
aami_swapnil
aami_swapnil

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/30/04 at 21:47:28 »
  

Gr88 thing Debu....thankx for sharing with usand really stuff like this cannot be boring......
This is what Dr.Dennis Kimbro, the famous psychologist and author has to say about success and I strongly believe in what he has to say about success......

"After years of research and exhausting interviews into the subject, I have come to know what success is and isn't. Accordingly, success is:

An attitude and a matter of choice. It is available to all who will take charge of the direction of their lives. The path to success leads through service.

Success is the process of learning and growing. It requires that the individual step out of line, away from the pack, and march to the beat of a different, sometimes distant, drummer. Success is knowing yourself and what you want.

Success is born by the pursuit of a goal or an ideal which will benefit others as easily as the dreamer. Success cannot be conferred upon others. Success can only be earned through individual initiative.

Succeeding means risk taking, courage, faith and commitment. Frederick Douglass was correct: success is born of struggle.

Success demands the use of whatever abilities and talents are available. It decays on the 40 hour work week. It is derived from labors of love. The achiever will be most successful doing what he or she truly enjoys.

Some indicators of success come from the desire to leave behind some great work that will survive or endure--in other words, permanence."

 
 
Nari
Nari

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/31/04 at 03:43:59 »
  

This is a nice one Debobratada, thanks a lot.  
 
Shankar_Chakravarti
Shankar_Chakravart

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/31/04 at 11:26:43 »
  


[quote author=Debabrata link=board=0011&num=1091185430&start=0#0 date=07/30/04 at 18:33:50]
I am sorry if this long post makes you annoyed.
[/quote]
Dear Debabrata,
What annoyed? Beautiful article. For pasting such a thought provoking material, I personally consider you as the [color=Red] Addabaj for the Month of July.[/color] Never mind the number of vote you got.
 
 
mrinmoyb
mrinb

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/31/04 at 13:15:08 »
  

Oh....that was one of it's kind.....  
 
krishanu_bhattjee
krishanu_bhattjee

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 07/31/04 at 16:03:11 »
  

main tyhein dil se shankar sir ki prostab ko support karta hoon....my vote also goes to debu as the addabaz of the month.  :D
 
 
Debabrata
debabrata

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/01/04 at 15:16:20 »
  

Thanks for all the appreciation! I am happy that like me you people are also moved by this great speech

asitida,swapnil,mrimoyda,shankarda,Nari,gaan,Shanuda,sandipan thanks again ---- tumra acho bole e [B]Life is Beautiful[/B]!!
 
 
Sandipan Suklabaidya
Sandipan,

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/01/04 at 23:36:58 »
  

Debu da, it was really gr8... I appologise for reacting late... but, never mind, "better late...... than never".

Keep posting  :D
 
 
Shankar_Chakravarti
Shankar_Chakravart

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/02/04 at 13:29:59 »
  


[quote author=Debabrata link=board=0011&num=1091185430&start=0#10 date=08/01/04 at 15:16:20]


sandipan thanks again ---- tumra acho bole e [B]Life is Beautiful[/B]!!
[/quote]
Dear Debabrata,
Thanks for the post. U R also a part in making Life  Beautiful.  BTW,   how do you anticipate that Sandipan will post a belated appreciation and thank him in advance ? Just curious to know, nothing against Sandipan , he is so cute and sweet.
 
 
asiti
asiti

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/02/04 at 15:47:42 »
  


[quote author=Shankar_Chakravarti link=board=0011&num=1091185430&start=0#12 date=08/02/04 at 13:29:59]

 BTW,   how do you anticipate that Sandipan will post a belated appreciation and thank him in advance ? Just curious to know, nothing against Sandipan , he is so cute and sweet.

[/quote]

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ............I know the answer. But...Ghurhar mukh thakiya jana jauk!!!

Anyway, coming back to the topic..in my high school days [those years, HSLC exam was there], there was a prose piece in Bangla, called Thakurdas Bandyopadhyay. It was a biography of Ishwar Chandra's father. It was so inspiring to see the transfer of qualities [inheritence] from father to son.

Now, as decades passed by, the frequency of such passages probably are becoming lesser. May be the complex phenomena of life have much to do about it.

I believe, it is not the heritage of ethics, but the heritage of HOPE and COURAGE that creates the fundamentals of success in one persons life. This inheritence comes not only from the parents, but also from the teacher, and it comes from the sovereign too.
 
 
Sandipan Suklabaidya
Sandipan,

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/02/04 at 22:35:38 »
  

oorebbus!   :o....ekhano dekhi besh boro shoro controversy hoi gelo!   :D...okay..let me clarify-
I heard the about the appreciation of Debuda's post much before going thru the post.... I got to know the contents from Swapnil da & Aichcha da.... much  before reading it between the lines and we have discussed it at home...since we r putting up together.... moreover , this adda always remains as a topic of discussion amongst us.

So.... he got my appreciation then & there only..... but much  later in this msg board!

So ...I hope the confusion is over by now....yeah?

ASITI DA and SHANKAR DA, I m addressing u as dada, as debuda and others use to... kintu apnara to onek boro amar cheye.... taile apnarar e koin kita daktam apnare?

bye for now... c u soon
 
 
Aachcha
jdoo_d

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/03/04 at 11:59:41 »
  

Dearest Debu bhai,
    Tumi je post ta dia arombo korso... taarpore aar kichu koibar moton thaake na.Ami to mba porsi na ba, oto shoto bujhi na.Tumi amar bhitorer ekta jinish re jagai diso.Post ita ami print kori amar desk o pin maari rakhsi.Successful hoiya jodi manush insensible hoi jae taile aar shei success er value thake na. Aar ei topic loiya tumar loge ekdin kotha hoibo ne.

Bhala thako

"Dada amare gulf o loiya jao re ba  :-["

Aachcha
 
 
mrinmoyb
mrinb

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/03/04 at 13:00:48 »
  

Just trying to share something that i read in a article.

The author started with the question, how do you define success??...Is it possible to quantify the term 'success'??....yes it is possible.
Success is a progressive term. Everyone defines 'success' taking two parameters into consideration, namely, time and achivement, but what happens when we achive that....again we set some kind of goal and starts working towards that....

Most of us know the defination of success, but are ignorant about sense of success. Here, i'ud like to cite a small example which goes like this.....

Once a man prayed to god to make him the richest person in this world......God was pleased  and decided to bestow him with what he wanted, but he placed a condition according to which the man has to keep walking through the road and collecting the wealth that will be dropped at certain points. The man started walking, but every time God dropped a box full of coin he couldn't recognise and kept on walking...When he returned home at the end of the day, he was highly frustrated and annoyed with god. He asked God, why have you played with me.....God answered, i have fullfilled my comittment, but you yourself couldn't recognise your goal.....
 
 
Debabrata
debabrata

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/03/04 at 15:56:23 »
  

How many of us actually have a good grasp on who we are and what we want out of life? Till today I have never thought this question seriously. I was not aware what I want to. Life was going, time was just passing. But after reading this awesome speech  I am seriously thinking on this .When I have finished this awesome speech I had a lump on my throat. Mr.Bagchi has forced me to think about the term "success” and me. We want more living example like this which would rekindle our inner self. (I am happy that Aichcha da has got inspired by this).


What Mr. Subrata wants to tell us?? Is it simple living and high thinking?? If this is what he wants to tell us then we are on the opposite direction? Most of us try to achieve only the material comfort in our life. The parameters of our success set to some material achievements only... nothing else. Our surroundings, friend circle, family made those parameters set in our conscious and subconscious mind right from the childhood. Our position in the society mostly depends on the amount we are earning,not on our vision, integrity, commitment and values towards life.


We might think that we know our desires, needs, passions, etc. The best way to find out is to ask ourselves, are we happy? It’s a question that must be answered honestly. If the answer is no, then we need to re-examine our life and re-introduce ourselves to who we are. It’s not an easy thing to do and includes a lot of soul searching, but it can be done. This is something that we have to do throughout our life. Our desires and needs will change constantly and we need to aware of them.

Once we've discovered what it is that makes us tick, we need to hold firmly to it.

Shankarda .. I think you have already got the answer of your question form Sandipan. Asitida did u guess this only ??

Mrinmoyda thanks for sharing a nice story. I appreciate. I would be happy if I see more posts on our own perspective on the subject.
 
 
Rupam
Rupam

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/03/04 at 16:24:21 »
  

Given the context, kind you could find the following link interestingg

http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/aug/03hole.htm

galileo, ramanujam, chandrasekhar...and now this.

all stories about questioning the popular and established beliefs...of being able to have the courage to differ and defend...despite all difficulties and ostracizations.
 
 
Debabrata
debabrata

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/03/04 at 16:40:28 »
  

Thanks Rupamda for sharing a gr8 news!  
 
Shankar_Chakravarti
Shankar_Chakravart

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/03/04 at 18:27:36 »
  


[quote author=Sandipan Suklabaidya link=board=0011&num=1091185430&start=0#14 date=08/02/04 at 22:35:38]


ASITI DA and SHANKAR DA, I m addressing u as dada, as debuda and others use to... kintu apnara to onek boro amar cheye.... taile apnarar e koin kita daktam apnare?


[/quote]
Dear Sandipan.
Wish you good luck in your job. Whatever you do, do with your heart in it. Now-a-days opportunities are much more compare to our days. It does not matter even if you join a small company. Fortunately,  MelCole   PR  is a good company .In ultimate analysis, you only write your own fate. My gut feelings  is that soon you will improve your computer knowledge and master some package.
Regarding  addressing us,  Asiti babu also faced the same problem and  I am following his method. [quote] Tumar ja bhalo lage ta dakiyo [/quote].
What Asiti babu meant is that,  you must address us  in a way  you are comfortable, so that you speak without hesitation and with open mind.  

 
 
aami_swapnil
aami_swapnil

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/04/04 at 07:34:34 »
  

Aamra jaara Assam University te porchi...specially. Silchorer_maiya and Krishanuda, we know Dr. Partha Chatterjee. There was a letter that he would hand over to all the freshers in the Mass Communication Department. That was a letter of Abraham Lincoln to his son's head master. I was just going through some old papers and found my copy of that letter....Just wanted to share that with you...in this thread... :)


" My Son will have to learn, I know, that all men are not just, all men are not true. But teach him that for every scoundrel, there is a hero; that for every selfish politician, there is a dedicated leader. Teach him that for every enemy there is a friend. It will take time, I know; but teach him, if you can, that a dollar earned is of far more value than five found. Teach him to learn to lose and also enjoy winning. Steer him away from envy, if you can.

Teach him the secret of quiet laughter. Let him learn early that the bullies are the easiest to lick.

Teach him, if you can, the wonder of books .... but also give him quiet time to ponder over the eternal mystery of birds in the sky, bees in the sun, and flowers on a green hill-side.

In school teach him it is far more honourable to fail than to cheat. Teach him to have faith in his own ideas, even if every one tells him they are wrong. Teach him to be gentle with gentle people and tough with the tough. Try to give my son the strength not to follow the crowd when everyone is getting on the band wagon. Teach him to listen to all men but teach him also to filter all he hears on a screen of truth and take only the good that comes through.

Teach him, if you can, how to laugh when he is sad. Teach him that there is no shame in tears. Teach him to scoff at cynics and to beware of too much sweetness.

Teach him to sell his brawn and brain to the highest bidders; but never to put a price tag on his heart and soul.

Teach him to close his ears to a howling mob ... and to stand and fight if he thinks he's right. Treat him gently; but do not cuddle him because only the test of fire makes fine steel. Let him have the courage to be impatient, let him have the patience to be brave. Teach him always to have sublime faith in mankind.

This is a big order; but see what you can do. He is such a fine little fellow, my son. "




 
 
Rupam
Rupam

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/04/04 at 11:25:06 »
  

that is a great one...swapnil...
shokal shokal ila inspiring piece porle shihoron jaage...
darun lekhsoin bhodrolok e...eitarey koy being able to not just swim with the tide downstream...but be there swimming against it...and go upstream...provided going upstream has its own dividends attached with it...

janina amraa ita kortaam parmu kii naa doinondin jibon e...kintu eirokom lekha porle hulusthuul prerona paawajay.

amaar mone hoy often it comes down to a choice between two very simple things...while defining success...

short term gains versus long term dividends...
kitaa koin apnaara?
 
 
aami_swapnil
aami_swapnil

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/06/04 at 02:41:03 »
  

I believe it is short time goals and long term vision :) and through the fulfilment fo the short time goals we get to see the path for the fulfilment of the long term vision.  
 
Teka
Guest

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/07/04 at 11:14:17 »
  

Success=money=power=fame  
 
mrinmoyb
mrinb

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/07/04 at 12:33:21 »
  


[quote author=aami_swapnil link=board=0011&num=1091185430&start=15#23 date=08/06/04 at 02:41:03]
I believe it is short time goals and long term vision :) and through the fulfilment fo the short time goals we get to see the path for the fulfilment of the long term vision.
[/quote]
That's really a wonderful defination
 
 
B,Santanu
B,Santanu

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/11/04 at 15:31:33 »
  

Some inspirational quotes on success...

Success doesn't come to you . . . you go to it.
- Marva Collins

Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must first set yourself on fire.
- Fred Shero

Eighty percent of success is showing up.
- Woody Allen

Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go.
- William Feather

Half the failures in life arise from pulling in one's horse as he is leaping.
- Augustus Hare

The road to success is lined with many tempting parking spaces.
- Unknown

If you stop every time a dog barks, your road will never end.
- Arabian Proverb

Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
- Albert Einstein

In order for you to profit from your mistakes, you have to go out and make some.
- Unknown

Success doesn't mean the absence of failures; it means the attainment of ultimate objectives. It means winning the war, not every battle.
- Edward Bliss

Failure is success if we learn from it.
- Malcolm Forbes

Success does not consist in never making mistakes, but in never making them a second time.
- George Bernard Shaw

The season of failure is the best time for sowing the seeds of success.
- Paramahansa Yogananda

Get up one more time than you're knocked down.
- Peter's Principle of Success


Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get.
- B.R. Hayden


If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error.
- John Kenneth Galbraith


We are not retreating - we are advancing in another direction.
- Douglas MacArthur

The true measure of your worth includes all the benefits others have gained from your success.
- Cullen Hightower


To laugh much; to win respect of intelligent persons and the affections of children; to earn the approbation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give one's self; to leave the world a little better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition.; to have played and laughed with enthusiasm, and sung with exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived--this is to have succeeded.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson



What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?
- Robert Schuller

 
 
Debabrata
debabrata

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/12/04 at 17:50:38 »
  

Santanu nice quotes.. here is nice story

[b]Eighty Floors[/b]

 There were once 2 brothers who lived on the 80th floor of a tall building.
On coming home one day, they realized to their dismay that the lifts were
not working and that they have to climb the stairs home.

 After struggling to the 20th level, panting and tired, they decided to
abandon their bags and come back for them the next day. They left their
bags then and climbed on............

  When they have struggled to the 40th level by this time they had gone
sufficiently mad and irritated. The younger brother started to grumble and
both of them began to quarrel. They continued to climb the flights of
steps, quarreling all the way to the 60th floor.

 They then realized that they have only 20 levels more to climb and decided
to stop quarreling and continue climbing in peace. They silently climbed on
and reached their home at long last. Each stood calmly before the door and
waited for the other to open the door. And they realized that the key was
in their bags which were left on the 20th floor.........

 This story is a reflection on our life and times. All of us climb the tall
building called life...........some till all the 80 floors and some less.
Many of us climb under the expectations of our companion.

  Time to time these are our friends and parents till the 20th floor,then
our spouse and our dear ones till the next level of the building. We seldom
get to do the things that we really like and love and are under so much
pressure and stress so that by the age of 20, we get tired and decided to
dump this load. Being free of the stress and pressure, we work
enthusiastically and dream ambitious wishes.

  By the time we reach 40 years old, we start to lose our vision and
dreams. We began to feel unsatisfied and start to complain and criticize.
We live life as a misery as we are never satisfied.

  Reaching 60, we realize that we have little left for complaining anymore,
and we began to walk the final episode in peace and calmness.

 We think that there is nothing left to disappoint us, only to realize that
we could not rest in peace because we have an unfulfilled dream..........a
dream we abandon 60 years ago. So what's your dream.....?

[b]bottom line[/b]

  Know your dreams and follow it so that you will not live with regrets.

 
 
mrinmoyb
mrinb

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/16/04 at 12:33:05 »
  

Debabrata, that was truely wonderful.....  
 
ravi
ravi

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/16/04 at 23:02:47 »
  

[quote author=Rupam link=board=0011&num=1091185430&start=15#18 date=08/03/04 at 16:24:21]
Given the context, kind you could find the following link interestingg

http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/aug/03hole.htm

galileo, ramanujam, chandrasekhar...and now this.

all stories about questioning the popular and established beliefs...of being able to have the courage to differ and defend...despite all difficulties and ostracizations.
[/quote]
I had seen the article in rediff.com. However I, with my little knowledge, could not find any connection between Abhas Mitra's claim and the retreat of Hawking. Hawking admitted some mistake in his theory regarding some properties of black hole which does not amount to denying the existance of black hole, whereas Abhas Mitra questioned the existance of black hole. My intention is not to belittle Abhas Mitra, I am just pointing out that the current developement is not at all related to his theory and that the article in rediff is somewhat senseless. I, as an Indian, shall be very much glad if some day his theory is proved to be corret.
 
 
Debabrata
debabrata

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/16/04 at 23:42:45 »
  

Nice discussion Mr.Ravi ...aami ekjon layman ..  jaani je Hawking or  black Hole oilo bishal eek theory aar Hawking is a big name in the field of science. I respect him but I was more happy to find that  Abhas Mitra-an Indian, questioned the existance of black hole. His perseverance and dedication is  impressive and his struggle to establish what he believes  is really inspiring.Rupam da has nicely put it “going against the tide”.

Looking forward to  see  Rupamda's  comment on this.
 
 
Rupam
Rupam

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/26/04 at 11:39:31 »
  

IISc scientists' findings may revolutionise power generation

NEW DELHI: In a global first, two Indian scientists have devised a tiny electrical current by merely passing a lot of gas over semi-conductors.

This innovation by Ajay K. Sood and his student Shankar Ghosh at the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, is already drawing laurels from across the world for its simple design and immense technological potential. Some observers are even of the opinion that this is the greatest Indian scientific discovery in the last 50 years.

''Gas flow energy can be converted directly into the electrical signal - thus having a potential for applications in generating electricity,'' the duo asserted.

Already being dubbed ''Sood effect'', the two scientists work at the world famous department founded by Nobel laureate Sir C.V.Raman, the discoverer of the 'Raman Effect''. The two may have to wait for the recognition they deserve, however, they have already broken a new ground with their experiment which has many parallels with Raman's historical experiments. One of them is that it cost them a few thousand rupees, reinforcing the fact that good science can sometimes be independent of large grants.

Ghosh says it took them not more than a month to complete the experiment. A media-shy and soft-spoken Sood calls it an 'idea-driven finding'. In this week's American publication - Physical Review Letters - they have succinctly demonstrated that an electric current and a voltage difference can be generated merely by gently flowing over a doped semi-conductor a common gas like oxygen, argon or nitrogen.

The scientists passed ordinary pure compressed gas at velocities ranging from a few kilometers per hour to speeds of thundering cyclones over inclined 3 mm surfaces.

Each time they got a measurable electrical signal of the order of micro-amperes. Sood explains that these measurable signals come about because of two commonplace physical principles called the ''Bernoulli's Principle'' and the ''Seebeck Effect''. The gas, when it strikes the small inclined surface, because of the ''Bernoulli's Principle'', produces a pressure gradient at the frontal and rear parts (the same effect that helps airplanes fly). This tiny pressure gradient in turn produces a temperature differential on the surface, which leads to production of a tiny electrical current - called ''Seebeck Effect''.

The work is still at the proof concept stage but application possibilities are many from developing tiny measuring devices to cascading millions of such chips to make nano dynamos or generators.

Incidentally the current can also be generated using air so the possibility of converting wind energy to an electrical current without the use of windmills and turbines is also plausible.

So unparalleled is the finding that the duo had a tough time citing any contemporary work as a reference in their path-breaking paper. The scientists have already sought a patent protection in over 120 countries through the Patent Co-operation Treaty.

This experiment immediately opens up immense technological possibilities where, in future, electrical generators need not have any moving parts at all, unlike the roaring monstrosities of the present to developing nano-scale measuring devices to monitor fluid velocities in wind tunnels.

Describing it as an ''outstanding breakthrough'', Valangiman Subraanian Ramamurthy, secretary of the Department

of Science Technology, New Delhi, says ''the finding has wide-ranging technological possibilities''.


People interested in the PHYSICS in this, could email me. I have a snippet of their actual work on this in acrobat format. I think that is also available on the IISC internet. Not very sure of the exact link though.
regards

 
 
Jimut
Jimut

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/26/04 at 22:34:49 »
  

Rupam Das deshi nuton signature line lagaiso reba...

Kun jaani gaanta...Khiladi nani cinema ta ??

Ekta purana sher mone hoilo, kaar keha jaani na

Ugte hue suraj pe nazar rakhta hoon
Sochte ho in chand-sitaron je behek jaunga ?

;D ;D ;D
 
 
mrinmoyb
mrinb

Re: Defining Success!!  
«on: 08/30/04 at 12:37:27 »
  

Bumper diso reba Jimut.....te tumi jokhon koilae...aami o koi ekta sher....goes like this.....

Chand ke dar pe jaa pohucha aaj jamana,
humko bhi hai wo izzat kamana,
khwab dhekte hai sitaro ko chune ki,
aata hai humko usse aage ki takkar lena bhi....
 
 
 
 

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